Mary Helen--that was a fine letter to Rev. Tutu, thank you for it. I am a bit puzzled that some of us can't seem to get beyond the "Ivan issue" and focus on the potential consciousness-raising re: PD that is offered by the Archbishop's willingness to make a statement/prayer.whatever on our behalf. As I understand it from Barbara, this would be a world wide press release---from a world famous and greatly respected figure. Why does it matter how the contact was established, or by whom? Could we please discontinue the personal put-downs on the list? If you want to criticize Ivan, or me, or anyone, why not do it directly to that person? ( I've "yelled" at Ivan plenty of times myself, but not in front of the whole world! Do we really want Parkies who may be seeking a safe haven on our list ,and reading it on the web,to get this as a first impression of the way we treat each other?) Would you refuse a good meal because you didn't care for the plate it was offered on? I agree with Judith--the enemy is PD ! Camilla Flintermann Oxford,OH http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm <[log in to unmask]> *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** * We agree to differ... we resolve to love... we unite to serve. *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***