Well said Camilla, I support the project regardless of its origins and agree that we should keep our personal differences from dominating the discussion. I- like you Camilla have had my differences with Ivan, but if things are as they appear, I salute Ivan for his idea and initiative and especially for- as it appears- taking himself out of the spotlight so the project can be free of the controversy its presentation initially stirred up. The lack of initial enthusiasm had nothing to do with the high regard most of us hold Bishop Tutu and if he is willing to participate I could think of no one better. And Gerrit I think the different ways we may choose to worship (or not worship) as the case may be- has little to do with the fact that a man held in esteem by most of the world as a moral leader may be willing (I Hope) to provide the focus to unite the members PD community- each with our own beliefs (or non-beliefs)- in prayer or reflection. I don't think it implies belief in the necessity of an intervener between God and man. (That is my view and I would certainly respect your right to dissent) Unity is the key here regardless of whose idea it was or what our religious beliefs, color, sexual preference, nationality are- or what PD organization we belong to. We unite to call on a higher power either within or outside of ourselves, to give us the strength to live with Parkinson's Disease and to eventually find a cure. Charlie Camilla Flintermann wrote: > > Mary Helen--that was a fine letter to Rev. Tutu, thank you for it. > > I am a bit puzzled that some of us can't seem to get beyond the "Ivan > issue" and focus on the potential consciousness-raising re: PD that is > offered by the Archbishop's willingness to make a statement/prayer.whatever > on our behalf. As I understand it from Barbara, this would be a world wide > press release---from a world famous and greatly respected figure. Why does > it matter how the contact was established, or by whom? Could we please > discontinue the personal put-downs on the list? If you want to criticize > Ivan, or me, or anyone, why not do it directly to that person? > ( I've "yelled" at Ivan plenty of times myself, but not in front of the > whole world! Do we really want Parkies who may be seeking a safe haven on > our list ,and reading it on the web,to get this as a first impression of > the way we treat each other?) Would you refuse a good meal because you > didn't care for the plate it was offered on? I agree with Judith--the > enemy is PD ! > > Camilla Flintermann Oxford,OH > > http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm > <[log in to unmask]> > > *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** > * > We agree to differ... > we resolve to love... > we unite to serve. > *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** -- ****************************************************************************************** Charles T. Meyer, M.D. Middleton (Madison), Wisconsin [log in to unmask] ******************************************************************************************