Well said, Phil. If we wait for all the med researchers to write their applications for research grants and do the 5 year clinical trials with half the schmucks getting placebo pills, we'll all be tied to a wheel chair. Lets go for the NADH, CoQ10, vitamin E, DHEA, etc. and share our experiences with fellow Parkies. There was an interesting post recently about creatine and it's possible benefits to victims of neuro-degenerative diseases. Has anyone tried it? All the info I can find indicates it is used to build muscle mass and strength. Ken Rowland [log in to unmask]