Roberta, Ginny, Janice and others -- I'd also be glad to see more discussion online and at conferences about writing centre issues. But since so many of us in that field also work on courses and WAC projects, I'm not so sure that our discussions need to or should be segregated. Would it bore the non-W.C. people to hear us discussing stuff like how to deter people from now showing up for appointments? (One of my concerns just now, looking at figures from the past year: an example of the admin details of W.C. work.) We've also got lots of concerns in common,such as the ways students keep thinking about writing instruction in terms of language correctness rather then rhetorical effectiveness [("Will you proofread this for me?" [W.C.] "Why did you give me a C -- I hardly made any errors?" [course]). Or is it only writing centre people who have to keep facing these things directly, since we must keep teaching students in whatever circumstances or state of (mis)understanding: we can't hide behind course structures or marking schemes.... Cheers, Margaret. -- (Dr.) Margaret Procter Room 216, 15 King's College Circle Coordinator, Writing Support Toronto, Ontario M5S 3H7 University of Toronto (416) 978-8109; FAX (416) 971-2027 www.library.utoronto.ca/www/writing/ [log in to unmask]