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WOW WOWEE RIGHT ON THE BUTTON! Terry you brought up a humdinger of a subject Charles, Janet, Catherine, Murray and others who contributed -great stuff Mary you were mot too long and what you said was very interesting Looking at the USA this way ...... from the north side of the longest undefended border ........there are advantages to looking untidy..... to having a number of different orgs.......... You can choose to give your support to a group whose philosophy matches yours Groups can affiliate with a national org or remain independant Each group can be at a different stage growth active resting internal fighting but there is choice Anne Rutherford Newfoundland