Rosemary: I just read your reply to Jerry , with encouragement for him to stay on the list, and I want to add that I agree with all you and he had to say about support and the disappointment with people's bickering. I hope he will stay with us since that in itself would be an act of support and I appreciate hearing people with honest, constructive criticism - it keeps things in balance - and I feel we all need to help each other keep the right perspective on many times impossible situations. I also notice that in the midst of it all, Ivan is working to remember and encourage other members undergoing difficult medical procedures - wouldn't it be a nice world if we could all remember to be constructive and caring in our daily activities and less time being at odds with different ideas? A sometimes tired carepartner in Texas.......