I am now totally confused, Carole, but that's normal for me! Whoever Harriet is, tell her hello! LOL I will gladly give operating lessons for anyone who wants to return to a dial phone! Imagine using one to communicate with one of those automated ordering systems? You'd have no skin left on your dialing finger! And as for Andy Rooney? I LIKE Andy Rooney, he complains with class!!! TTYL Ken B