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Is all of our dismay over the availability and expense involved in the STNDBS something that the PAN should be brought up in the upcoming forum. Especially when we see the difference in costs between the US and Europe. Hans, if the original costs of the surgery in the US is $50-60K as Dr. Meyer, Jane Ross and the others have stated, I wonder what that comparative cost would be in Europe. Maybe all of us who are interested should charter a 747 to Belgium and have one big bash! Ruth Clark