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How about taking the door off of one of your lower kitchen cabinets and using that space for your knees while sitting on a bar stool? Of course, that means having one less cabinet to store stuff. I use to work in a lab and we had knee desks. In other words the counter would periodically have a space underneath where the tecnician could place his/her wheeled bar stool when not used as a desk. You would have to look in a lab catalogue like the Fisher catalogue. Needless to say, it would cost a pretty penny but it's a thought. Teresa, Daughter of Mama (57/43/38) -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Nancy S. Shlaes Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 9:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: HELP NEEDED Both my husband and I spend a great deal of time in the kitchen cooking all sorts of things. It is an engrossing hobby for both of us. But it is increasingly difficult for both of us (me for PD reasons and Vic for orthopedic reasons) to stand and chop, mince etc. The kitchen table is inconvenient because there is no sink in it (of course) and high stools at the sink make us sit sideways and are hard on the back. Do any of you knowledgeable people know of a sturdy shelf that would attach easily--perhaps a clamp--and extend out from a kitchen counter so that there is room for a sitting person to get knees under it? I used to get a lot of self-help magazines, but since I never ordered anything they ceased to come. There may be an entirely different approach to this problem (and some of you might have already solved it) so, all suggestions would be very welcome. Thanking this multi-talented group in advance, Nancy Shlaes deGrazia (62,dx57)