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In a message dated 6/27/99 4:07:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << because it's not big enough to contain the volume. (This was the only size found in four sto >> Helen, off the top of my head, have you considered 3 or 4 urinals? Is he able to cap them when full? The urinals I've seen had clamp-on lids, and were configured to rest securely on a flat surface, or to stand upright, as I recall. I would also call the urologist tomorrow for first opening available. Clare Wilson