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In a message dated 6/30/99 7:16:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << I have to answer for Peter: As for using "Depends" when you go out---or anytime---please don't be embarrassed about it. It would save YOU some embarrassment and Vivian a lot of work! Don, in addition, let me share a little secret: many women have been using something similar for urinary incontinence, stress incontinence, etc., since around menopause. I wouldn't leave home without that protection. Clare Wilson