I didn't quote for obvious reason - namely, janet said a LOT. I don't understand a lot of that manual info There is one "option" that I have seen on other lists that isn't done here. It would save janet work even after Barb returns. When a person sends the unsubscribe request to the list instead of the listserv, it ought to bounce back to the sender w/message saying it looks like a command . With an option like that set up, the list doesn't keep seeing these posts telling "someone to stop sending this e-mail" .... "take me off your list".... Over the past week, there have been quite a few of those type posts. janet, I'm glad the list is in your hands (til Barb returns) cause I know I couldn't do it. Bonnie