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Hilary, Thank you for your response. It is re-assuring to find that one can handle events such as a graduation, keep in mind you have been there, I have not, it is very hard to imagine how one gets through it. Your message is why I joined the list, real people, real life. Thanks for sharing. P.S. Yes, I read the funnies and believe it or not I finf them funny... Paul Ayers General Manager Universal Consulting, Inc Indianapolis, Indiana 317-577-1502 317-558-1026 http://www.uciconsult.net [log in to unmask]