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John, I just wanted to ask you to pass the word to Tor not to feel bad. After working the Houston stockshow for 14 years, his accident isn't as unusual as you might suspect. In about 1997, I got a "new" knee courtesy of a small pile of cow droppings deposited on a steel ramp, and stepped in by yours truly. While it doesn't make an exciting story, it is a fairly common accident in some locals....... and after a long enough period of time, it is almost amusing again. With all those swine running around, has there been any comments about pork, the other white meat? I keep wondering if the pigs are truly committed to the cause, or are just participating. I still think we should introduce the palmetto bugs up that way, and let them work for you, they would make terrific guards, and appear to be indestructible. Hmmmmm, hope Vito doesn't think of that, Ken might be out of work again. bob