A list member posted a message in which he said he had vowed after the holocaust that he would never be hungry again . I thought that statement certainly put this latest list uproar into perspective. After all, we were just dealing with words...'names will never hurt me'. But words, hateful, cruel words, do hurt and verbal attacks can instill fear which can result in us losing voices that we need to hear. I think that we all, not only the list owners, but ALL of us need to be vigilant and concerned about this kind of abuse. We ALL need to do what we can to stop it. I agree that there a various interpretations and misinterpretations of what constitutes abuse but we're all grown ups here and have a darned good idea of what abuse is. I have been asked by some members (some more than once) to respond to the various analogies re "what the parkinsn list is". Here's my shot at answering some of the questions. Defining the List (as I see it) My purpose in starting the list was the exchange of information about Parkinson's. The list rapidly changed into the largest support group I know. Besides its original purpose, the list has become a means of feeling connected' to other members...a way of feeling we're not alone... of making the road of life with pd easier to bear. It allows us to connect with the voices of experience....just knowing that Don is still Don after all these years of living with pd makes my picture of my future a lot brighter. I have always felt that we hear each other better on the list because we can't see each other. Symptoms, age colour, race don't interfere. The list knows no countries, has nothing to do with money...there's no "what's in it for me?" But these same qualities mean our words are open to misinterpretation. Since others can't see our wry smile or wink or hear our tone of voice, a goal of keeping it "short & sweet" can result in appearing abrupt. Also, the same word can have different meanings and different shades of meaning to different people in different areas of the world so care must be taken in writing and reading of the messages.. I have been asked which analogy is correct: Family? Guests? Bus? Boat? Club members? How about: Brave new world? The medium IS the message? All or none of the above? Never, in the known history of this planet, has this kind of relationship existed. We meet in a place that has no walls. We talk to our friends whom we have never seen. We care deeply for other members whom we will never physically hug. Folks, we're making it up as we go along so any rules have to be flexible. One thing for sure, I AM NOT the list; no one person is. We ALL are. WE make it what it is - Camilla's obvious love & commitment to Peter; Judith & Janet & Murray & all the others who scour the web searching for pd information; the list (lurker) member who phoned me yesterday with the information about Amgen's exciting research; John with his Parkinsaw; PAN group urging us to political action and fund raising, Charlie & Bob & Kathryn who offer their professional and/or first-hand experience. All of these blend and flow and clash and laugh and cry....in other words, real life. Rules: I prefer Janet Paterson's version "D" Suggestions for Interacting on the List: Be kind. Be honest. Share the time fairly....if you think you have taken more than your share of the list resources, you just might have. Keep it generally related to Parkinson's. Don't abuse the generosity of the University of Toronto's free gift of the list. Don't include all of the message to which you are replying. Use plain text' with no attachments. Wash your hands with soap before you eat. :) In other words, use the same common courtesy that you would elsewhere. Privacy - Public Forum The messages on the Parkinsn list may be personal but they are NOT private...never have been. The illusion of privacy when using email is just that: an illusion. I found this out the hard way. One of the faculty members for whom I worked (and loved dearly) was murdered by her husband. This woman & I chatted' via email a lot. Our discussions were wide ranging from physical/emotional symptoms of women of a certain age' to details about the private and professional lives of our co- workers. She was one of my main supports when I was diagnosed and also when I started this list. The police took all of our emails and some of them were used as evidence in court. Believe me, I will NEVER forget that email is not private. Pig Controversy While the pig' issue did get to be a bit much, I just want to say that it also amazed me with the off-the-cuff, off-the-wall creativity of our members. You guys should write a book! Barb =========================================================================== Barbara Patterson [log in to unmask] HSC 2J22 905-525-9140, ext. 22403 School of Nursing ===========================================================================