Thank you Dennis, you speak for me as well. For the first time lately, I have had serious concerns about the PD listserv, and begun to question whether I should drop out. Charlie's earlier comments were very good points, too, in my opinion, and I think they are being overlooked. Best regards, Kathrynne Dennis Greene wrote: > To: Janet and Barbara > cc: the list > Janet wrote, on behalf of herself and Barbara > > if any member of this list > > attacks, harasses or 'flames' another member of this list > > please be assured that the attacker will be summarily booted off the list > > and the internet service provider serving the offending list member > > will be informed of their offensive behaviour > > Whilst I'm agree with what you are saying in principle, I am extremely > concerned at how this will work in practice. As written you appear to be > saying that anyone deemed to be guilty of the offences listed above will be > removed from the list, at your sole discretion and no questions asked, on > their first offence. > > If this is the case could you please define just what constitutes an attack > in your eyes. Judging by the views you expressed during the recent > exchange, BarbM, Brian Collins and myself (for supporting BarbM) would now > be ex members of this list. As I saw BarbM's original post as very > carefully written to avoid comment on individual personalities and you, > Janet, advised her that in your view it did constitute a personal attack, it > is clear to me that I am not going to survive long in this brave new world > your announcement ushers in. Indeed I may well have already overstepped the > mark. More to the point if people stop taking dissenting views because of > fear of being booted then we will be unable to discuss much of anything and > there won't be much point in being here anyway. > > Therefore - > > I hereby formally request that Janet and Barbara reconsider their position > in the light of the following comments: > > There is a world of difference between saying - "Dear so-'n-so please cut > back on your postings about bats (cats, dogs, guinea pigs) because they are > driving me batty" - and "Dear so-'n-so I think you are an idiot for posting > so many messages about bats (etc) so stop doing it." The first is a simple, > and in my view legitimate request. The second is definitely attacking and > the attacker should be warned that they are jeopardising their membership of > the list if they persist. People who make a habit of such postings should > then be booted. Summary booting off at the time of a first offence should > surely be reserved for attacks of a serious nature." > > Janet - you and I enjoyed some quite heated exchanges of view when we first > met on this list. We expressed some strongly worded views on each others > arguments and occasionally both of us (wrongly) strayed across the mark into > personal comment The contributions we have subsequently made to this list > were shaped in part by those exchanges, yet if Barbara had applied the > criteria you are now apparently applying neither of us would be here today. > > Janet - I know you love this list - but I truly believe that if you don't > build some flexibility into your current stand you will change it beyond > recognition. I can't believe that is your intent. > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Dennis Greene 49/dx 37/ onset 32 > There's nothing wrong with me that a cure for PD won't fix! > [log in to unmask] > http://members.networx.net.au/~dennisg/ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD Medical nutrition therapy Author: "Eat well, stay well with Parkinson's disease" "Parkinson's disease: assessing and managing unique nutrition needs" http://www.nutritionucanlivewith.com/