Janet....it really doesn't matter but .since you said, "and to fish for comments and/or...." you might want to take into account that possibly some of these ins/outs have changed their email address from one ISP to another which would be a remove from the list and an add to the list...which is what I will be doing in next couple of weeks as soon as I can get bookmarks and addresses transferred....wha'cha' think? Joan -----Original Message----- From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:57 AM Subject: FYI: latest "Welcome to the PIEnet!" message for joiners >hi all > >just to keep you all up to date >and to fish for comments and/or corrections > >[btw, 31 list joiners and 25 list leavers in the past week or so] > >janet > >------------------------------------------------------------- > >welcome to the newest PARKINSN list-member and cyber-sibling! > >hello! > >i am janet paterson [one tee] >sometimes known as the list-elf >sometimes known as the nerdette list-mom > >please accept my greetings and warm welcome to what i consider >one of the finest sources of information and support >for people with parkinson's [PWP] >and their caregivers [CG] > >barb patterson [two tees - no relation!] >sometimes known as the founding list-mom >established this mailing list in november 1993 > >i discovered it in october 1995 and count that discovery >as a turning point for me in dealing with my own pd > >beware all netniks: >please note that none of us are medicos: >discussions here should not be construed as 'professional advice' > >beware incoming e-mail: >please note that we currently have 1800 members worldwide: >list message volume can vary anywhere from 20 to 60 messages per day > >beware 'list police': >this is our favourite PIEnet list description: > >>>> Posting number 53115, dated 4 Dec 1998 14:43:07 >>Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:43:07 -0500 >>From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> >>Subject: Re: Suggestion for Newbie Subscriptions >> >>... >>my two cents' worth: >>... >>i cannot see the volume as a 'problem' >>whether there are 30 messages in one day or in one hour >>whether they are all about pd or not >>whether they are all about snake oil or not >> >>they reflect the living breathing organism >>which is this cyber-family >> >>we are not a corporation bound by company rulebooks and standards >>we are not a school bound by a curriculum and exams >> >>we are part of a new frontier of democracy >>where each one of us has >>the same opportunity to be heard as everyone else >>and >>the same right to speak as everyone else >> >>personally >>i find it awe-inspiring just as it is > > >below >please find a welcome message from barb patterson >along with our current PIEnet subscription instructions > >please contact me if you have any questions or need more info >or visit the PIEnet section of my website [see below] >which i have dedicated to this > > >janet > > >janet paterson >52 now / 41 dx / 37 onset >snail-mail: PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada >website: a new voice <http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Village/6263/> >e-mail: <[log in to unmask]> > > >=========================================================================== = > >Welcome! > >You have joined the PARKINSN mailing list also known as the Parkinson >Information Exchange Network [PIEnet]. > >Please send a message to the list members (if you want to) introducing >yourself and any Parkinson's-related topics you would like. > >Let me introduce myself. I am a secretary for six faculty members in >the School of Nursing, McMaster University. In September, 1992, I was >diagnosed as having Parkinson's ... hence my interest in this list. > >I hope you enjoy your involvement with the PIEnet. > >Barb > >=========================================================================== = >Barbara Patterson [log in to unmask] >HSC 2J22 905-525-9140, ext. 22403 > School of Nursing >=========================================================================== = > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Subscription Instructions > >the following is the text version >of information available on the World Wide Web at: ><http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Village/6263/pienet/subs/> >updated 1999/07/19 > > >subscription instructions >the short version > >================================================================= >List Address: for posting a message to the PARKINSN listmembers: > [log in to unmask] >================================================================= >Command Address: for sending a command to the LISTSERV computer: > [log in to unmask] >================================================================= >To subscribe, send this command: > SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME >To obtain a list of the commands that the listserv recognizes: > HELP >To obtain your current subscription options: > QUERY PARKINSN >To receive copies of your own messages: > SET PARKINSN REPRO >To change from individual messages to the digest format: > SET PARKINSN DIGEST >To change back to individual messages from the digest format: > SET PARKINSN NODIGEST >To stop incoming mail temporarily: > SET PARKINSN NOMAIL >To resume incoming mail: > SET PARKINSN MAIL >To stop incoming mail permanently and terminate your subscription: > SIGNOFF PARKINSN >================================================================= > > >how to join >how to subscribe to the PIEnet listserv mailing list > >To subscribe, send this 'command' message: > SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME > >E-mail all 'command' messages to the listserv computer at: > [log in to unmask] > >After you confirm your subscription by return e-mail, you will >start receiving messages as they are posted to the PIEnet. > >here's a sample 'i want to subscribe' message: > >================================================================ >Date: 1999/12/31 23:59:59 EST >From: Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD >To: [log in to unmask] >Cc: me >Subject: My First E-Mail Message to a Machine >---------------------------------------------------------------- > >SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN WANDA JOYNE > >================================================================ > >here are some tips > >* The "To" Header: The listserv has two addresses: > the List Address: use [log in to unmask] > for messages to the PARKINSN list-members; and > the Command Address: use [log in to unmask] > for commands to the LISTSERV computer; > incredible as it might sound, it's easy to mix them up... > >* The "Subject" Header: This header (and anything typed in it) is > ignored by the listerv computer. > >* The "Body" of the Message: This is where the listserv computer > looks for 'commands' in very specific nerd-lingo. > > >how to talk to the cyber-server >how to change your subscription options > > >There are various options which can change the way your subscription >is managed. There are specific words aka 'commands' that the listserv >computer will recognize and respond to. > >All 'commands' to the computer should be in the 'body' section of your >e-mail message. The 'subject header' is ignored by the listserv. > >Since the listserv computer at the University of Toronto manages several >mailing lists, all commands affecting your subscription must include the >name of our mailing list too. > >The listserv name for the PIEnet is PARKINSN [not PARKINSON) >[the O was stolen by malicious hackers]. > >The Command Address for sending a 'command' to the LISTSERV computer is: > [log in to unmask] > >To request a descriptive summary list of the 'commands' that the listserv >recognizes, send the following 'command' message: > HELP > >To find out what your subscription options currently are: > QUERY PARKINSN > >To change your subscription options to receive the digest format >[i.e. two or three 'lumps' of collected mail per day rather than >individual messages - possibly more convenient but less timely]: > SET PARKINSN DIGEST > >To change your subscription setting back to individual messages: > SET PARKINSN NODIGEST > >To stop the incoming mail temporarily: >(for vacations, etc, - this means that you 'miss out' on the pd listmail >during your vacation but if you want to 'catch up' on what you've missed >you can always request old messages from the listserv] > SET PARKINSN NOMAIL > >To resume incoming mail: > SET PARKINSN MAIL > >To stop incoming mail permanently and to terminate your subscription: > SIGNOFF PARKINSN > >here's a sample 'i want to change my subscription options' message: > >=================================================================== >Date: 2000/01/01 01:01:01 EST >From: Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD >To: [log in to unmask] >Cc: me >Subject: My Second E-Mail Message to a Machine >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >SET PARKINSN NOREPRO >SET PARKINSN DIGEST > >================================================================= > >here are some tips: > >* The "To" Header: The listserv has two addresses: > the List Address: use [log in to unmask] > for messages to the PARKINSN list-members; and > the Command Address: use [log in to unmask] > for commands to the LISTSERV computer; > incredible as it might sound, it's easy to mix them up... > >* The "Subject" Header: This header (and anything typed in it) is > ignored by the listerv computer. > >* The "Body" of the Message: This is where the listserv computer > looks for 'commands' in nerd-lingo. > > > >how to talk to us cyber-siblings >how to post a message to all of us listmembers > >After you have subscribed to the PIEnet, to post a 'public' message >for all the other subscribers to read, type your message in the >'body' area and fill in the 'subject line' with a brief description >of your topic. > >E-mail all 'public' messages to the listserv computer at: > [log in to unmask] > >here's a sample 'hello to all you list-members' message: > >================================================================= >Date: 1999/12/31 23:59:59 EST >From: Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD >To: [log in to unmask] >Cc: me >Subject: My First E-Mail Message to a Human Being >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Hello Everyone; > >I have just joined the PIEnet and want to thank >Barbara Patterson for setting up this great resource, >and also the University of Toronto for hosting the list >and the archives rent-free. > >More later. > >Wanda > >~v^v~ Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD ~v^v~ [log in to unmask] ~v^v~ >================================================================= > >here are some tips: > >* The "To" Header: The listserv has two addresses: > the List Address: use [log in to unmask] > for messages to the PARKINSN list-members; and > the Command Address: use [log in to unmask] > for commands to the LISTSERV computer; > incredible as it might sound, it's easy to mix them up... > >* The "Subject" Header: This header might be the most important of > all; with e-mail volume on the list growing slowly but steadily, > a clear but concise description of what your message is all > about, only makes for good 'netiquette'! > >* The "Body" of the Message: This space available! The only rule > here, according to the powers that be, is that personal attacks on > [or 'flames'] other listmembers could be cause for banishment. > >* A "Signature": This is a feature available on most e-mail software > programs, and is completely optional for PIEnet members. (Some > listmembers - not mentioning any names - find it handy if the > message sender's e-mail address is included at the end of their > message.) >