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In a message dated 8/5/99 9:23:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << the fun is now gone, for me at least, from the pig-Ken-Vito-etc silliness that helped to lighten my day as a CG and list owner. >> Camilla, I'm sorry to hear you say that...and it is exactly what I anticipated..... that the fun will be stopped altogether by the dissenters. Sorry, sorry, sorry. If there were a middle- road in this conflict that all factions could accept, I wish someone would come up with it.