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From: judith richards <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: not same


> Janice wrote:
> >Hi all,
>      I am about to leave this room. I came here for support and all
> there is just fighting in here. I am even afraid to say what I thing for
> it might be taken wrong, or picked apart. I love all the people in here,
> but lately is seems like a battle zone. I am new at this pd stuff, and I
> fight it with every thing I have. I hope a cure comes but before it does
> I know that I will get worse. I do yoga and Tia Chi take vits and herbs
> and read all that I can to help myself. My heart aches for Joan S. for
> where she is at in he life with this pd. I can not word this as well and
> Dennis can or some of the other in here. All I can say is this room has
> changed and I am thinking of leaving it. That is all I have to say
> Janice 52/50/46<
>
>     What a sad state of affairs. What once was a comfort zone for so
> many of us supposedly fighting the same battle against Parkinsons has
> become a battlefield against each other.
>     Yesterday we had Bill Harshaw's overview of Parkinsons - where it
> was - where it is - where it is going, and it was a message full of hope
> for me.
>     Yesterday Dennis Greene wrote about a trend he has noticed on the
> list. It was thoughtful and something we all have to think about. To me,
> that post was not directed at anyone in particular.
>     However, one person seemingly felt that Dennis was finger-pointing
> and wrote a long, and IMO unnecessary rebuttal.
>     The general post from Dennis suddenly became personal and it has
> continued and once again people are thinking of leaving the list.
>     So to you, Janet, you have stated many times that robust and frank
> discussions are to be expected here and that's a good thing. However,
> your posts are often perceived as aggressive and belligerent and we have
> lost members because of it. For many, Parkinsons leaves us with our self
> esteem and self confidence badly shaken. The last thing we need is to be
> intimidated on a list that was designed to help us.
>     During the last debate which resulted in another sub list being
> created, PWP wrote that Barb (our list founder) gave a gentle reprimand
> when necessary, while you on the other hand jumped with both feet.
>     I just read a new message on the list about Martin Bayne. Remember
> him? Remember why he left the list?
>     I realize that this will be seen as a personal attack and I will
> probably be banned from the list, but it really doesn't matter because
> this is no longer a comfort zone for me and it makes me very sad.
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 1999 7:56 AM
> Janet wrote:
> >access to power
> >must be confined to those
> >who are not in love with it
>
> >plato
>
> Judith
> --
> Judith Richards, London, Ontario, Canada
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