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Camilla Flintermann wrote: > I'm not aware that here (in Ohio) > there are such strict guidelines for handicapped parking permits. and > I wonder if other states / countries have as strict a definition as Oz does? When researching the original submission I discovered that the U.K. has similar criteria to ours, including the at all times requirement. My informant indicated that he had not heard of anyone being refused a permit because they had the 'on/off' syndrome. Even here in Western Australia, the 'at all times' requirement existed for a great many years but was not given prominence or enforced until the agency came under pressure from PERMIT HOLDERS angry at seeing apparently able bodied people using the bays. I must point out that PWP were not the only people caught up in the net - others included people with MS and people with arthritis. Dennis.