On 6th Sept Sharon wrote: > > > Brian, > > > > I'm having a looong night/morning and perhaps am a bit groggy (could > > that be intoxicated from lack of sleep??), but would you please explain > > again your comment ---- > > > > "The exposure if you start with an agonist on diagnosis, > > would be in the region of 60-100 Pergolide years. ...... but at > > least my exposure is only 15 Pergolide years." Hello Sharon I thought I might get pulled-up on this one! It is my attempt to define a parameter which illustrates the amount of risk associated with a particular drug. I reckon that there will be two main parameters: The length of time over which the PWP is exposed to the risk, and The amount of the drug which he has taken. So, if you take an agonist for 5 years and you take 6 mg of the agonist per day, your exposure index will be 6 x 5 = 30 milligram-years) If you ramped-up the tablet intake (As I did with my Permax, the effective exposure will be halved (= 15 milligram-years). We are not much wiser having done these sums, but maybe we can use them to get a measure of the risk associated with starting an agonist soon after diagnosis. I'll take a wild guess, and assume that you would like to live for quite a long time,- let's say another 30 years. At the end of that period, let's assume that you will be taking 9 mg per day. (I know that some people are now taking 12 mg, and I am on 6 mg/day. Let's be generous and assume that you try to keep to a Ramped input. The risk factor is 30 x 0.5 x 9 = 135 That is 9 times the risk exposure compared with my philosophy, based on only using the agonists when you have no other option. PS - With all the hair-raising symptoms floating around in response to this thread, I consider my case to be made, so I won't make too much of that aspect -- Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]>