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Simon, very well said, as always. Your contributions to this listserv are always excellent, and I appreciate all your work very much. Best regards, Kathrynne Simon Coles wrote: > > Hi Janet, > > >i don't agree with your subject header in re community > >i find that perceptions are much funnier > > >i don't agree with your hall metaphor either: > > Do you have a metaphor you could share? > > (we all pass mails back & forth, without actually communicating. > Metaphor is a good way to expose our underlying assumptions) > > > >Over time, the hall gets more and more popular. The queue to speak on > >>the stage gets longer, people struggle to be heard, and tempers are > >>frayed. The room's full to bursting, the air conditioners can't keep > >>up, and people are quietly leaving because they can't cope with the > >>overcrowding. > > > >this perception has been around since the list was all of 600 members > >maybe even earlier > > That may mean: > - people were wrong then (with the implication they're wrong now) > - people had a legitimate concern then, but the problem's gone away > - people had a legitimate concern then, and its still legitimate > - something else > > ??? > > >we have choices in our perceptions > >in the type of filter or lens we colour our world with > > Perceptions are the only thing that matters, because that's what people act on. > > If people perceive something and leave the list, then we either don't > care because they are wrong, or we try and do something about it. > > >i see no queue to speak on stage > >this is the first stage on the planet that has no queue > > You are correct that the Internet allows everyone to stand on stage and speak. > > Whilst bandwidth, disk space, etc. do place some costs on our > activities, its not dominant for our purposes. > > What is the limiting factor is people's attention. This is why > Internet sites that can grab people's attention are valued so highly > on the stock market. > > If my Parkinson's community only comes in a lump called PARKINSN at > 40 messages a day, and feel I can't deal with 40 messages a day, then > I can't be a member of any Parkinson's groups on the Internet. > > Similarly, if my boss doesn't mind me reading stuff about PD at work, > but doesn't feel so generous about chatty stuff (which is important, > but we're talking about his perceptions) then I can't be a member of > any Parkinson's groups on the Internet. > > That's a major tragedy. Routed in perception, but there's still "one > of us" who can't participate, and benefit from our knowledge, > experience, and support. > > (There is some stuff around about "The attention economy" - search > http://www.google.com for those worlds - its all a bit rarefied > though) > > >i feel no struggle > >except with my own limitations > > > >my temper is never frayed > >except when i feel that i am being dictated to or censored > > > >there are no space limitations in etheria > > > >each one of us controls our own climate > > How do you feel towards people who don't share these values & beliefs? > > >people come and go, quietly and loudly, > >as their needs and perceptions permit > > Granted. I would like them to be able to stay as long as they need, > and to be able to move onto a place that's appropriate for them. > > Simon > --------- My opinions are my own, NIP's opinions are theirs ---------- > Simon J. Coles Email: [log in to unmask] > New Information Paradigms Work Phone: +44 1344 753703 > http://www.nipltd.com/ Work Fax: +44 1344 772510 > =============== Life is too precious to take seriously =============== -- Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD Medical nutrition therapy Author: "Eat well, stay well with Parkinson's disease" "Parkinson's disease: assessing and managing unique nutrition needs" http://www.nutritionucanlivewith.com/