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Touche', Bob.            Carole

--- "Robert A. Fink, M. D." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Date sent:              Sun, 19 Sep 1999 07:01:06
> -0700
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> From:                   Carole Hercun
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:                Re: the embryo debate / if
> men could get pregnant
> To:
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> > Hi Bob: But as you know, there have always been
> women
> > warriors-from the Amazons to our own women
> veterans of
> > "Desert Storm". Women have served in some capacity
> in
> > every U.S. war, including the Revolutionary and
> Civil
> > Wars, often disguised as men and actually
> > participating in combat. There are 2 million women
> > veterans in this country. And while we don't
> currently
> > draft women in this country, other countries do,
> for
> > example, Israel.                     Carole H.
>
> I know all of the above.  I believe that women
> deserve equal treatment
> in the military (some of the services do not yet
> allow women to be
> involved in direct combat).  This is not the issue.
>
> In the United States, women are not *forced* to
> serve in the military
> (the draft).  Since they are not subject to the
> draft, the argument could
> be made (and, BTW, I am not making this argument)
> that women
> should not have any voice in debating issues
> involving the military
> and/or conscription.
>
> Thus, for me, the argument that men (because we do
> not have uteri)
> should not have a voice in the abortion debate, is
> invalid.  Men are
> required for making babies, and any baby which is
> produced is 50%
> the result of a male contribution.  We are required
> to support the
> children that we sire, and, with that, I believe,
> goes the right to deal
> with the "existence" of those children.
>
> So, whatever your position on abortion (and I am not
> going to debate
> this on the List), the "rules" need to be equal and
> men should not be
> dismissed as incompetent to take a position just
> because of
> "chromosomal accident".
>
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
>
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