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Date sent: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 07:01:06 -0700 Send reply to: Parkinson's Information Exchange <[log in to unmask]> From: Carole Hercun <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the embryo debate / if men could get pregnant To: [log in to unmask] > Hi Bob: But as you know, there have always been women > warriors-from the Amazons to our own women veterans of > "Desert Storm". Women have served in some capacity in > every U.S. war, including the Revolutionary and Civil > Wars, often disguised as men and actually > participating in combat. There are 2 million women > veterans in this country. And while we don't currently > draft women in this country, other countries do, for > example, Israel. Carole H. I know all of the above. I believe that women deserve equal treatment in the military (some of the services do not yet allow women to be involved in direct combat). This is not the issue. In the United States, women are not *forced* to serve in the military (the draft). Since they are not subject to the draft, the argument could be made (and, BTW, I am not making this argument) that women should not have any voice in debating issues involving the military and/or conscription. Thus, for me, the argument that men (because we do not have uteri) should not have a voice in the abortion debate, is invalid. Men are required for making babies, and any baby which is produced is 50% the result of a male contribution. We are required to support the children that we sire, and, with that, I believe, goes the right to deal with the "existence" of those children. So, whatever your position on abortion (and I am not going to debate this on the List), the "rules" need to be equal and men should not be dismissed as incompetent to take a position just because of "chromosomal accident". Best, Bob ********************************************** Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., P. C. 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 Berkeley, California 94704-2636 Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557 WWW: <http://www.dovecom.com/rafink/> mailto:[log in to unmask] "Ex Tristitia Virtus" *********************************************