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dear michael
        don't you think that part of the disagreements in the on-going mail
is due to the many different definitions of so many of our english language
words . when someone makes a statement he may be thinking of one meaning but
the other party takes another meaning then possibly takes offense when none
was intended.
      i came to this conclusion when trying to ask my children about an
incident.each of them gave what they perceived to be the truth yet the
explaination was at odds with sibling. i finally found that part of the
problem was in how i worded my questions only by having them together at the
same time and then letting them discuss it before either spoke would i
finally be able to settle differences without any hard feelings on their
part.it made my life a lot easier after i used this approach
.we have a very contadictary language and must be careful in
how we use to keep from hurting others..
  sincerely
     connie tate
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Koontz <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: NEWS-Panel Urges Embryo Donation Policy / opinion


>thank you
>
>
>janet paterson wrote:
>
>> hi all
>>
>> At 22:39 1999/09/17 -0400, leo wrote:
>> >Janet,
>> >I have stated that killing is wrong...
>>
>> that is your opinion and you are entitled to it
>>
>> >I do not hear Chris saying killing is right. I would hope you
>> >are not saying that killing is correct or a matter of choice...
>>
>> what constitutes killing?
>> humans
>> animals
>> plants
>> fish
>> the organism we call earth
>> are all forms of life
>>
>> i am not saying that i think that killing is right
>> but so what if i did?
>>
>> you can have your opinion
>> and i can have mine, right?
>>
>> i have cats as pets
>> i wear leather shoes
>> i can't stand eating seafood with legs and antennae
>> if i were a muslim, i might drive a suicide truck into an embassy
>> if i had ever decided i wanted to have an abortion, i would have done so
>> if i were a 'christian' priest in the dark ages, i might have burnt
>> 'heretics' alive
>>
>> we are all 'products' of our culture and our times
>> we are all part of life
>>
>> >I do respect your opinions and your right to opinions.
>> >I do not have to agree with them especially if they
>> >are against my moral convictions.  I agree with you the
>> >ability and freedom to express opinions is important...
>>
>> good!
>> it is nice to be in agreement sometimes [!]
>>
>> >There are limits and they are also necessary...
>>
>> ooops!
>> more rocks in the path
>>
>> 'necessary' is a value judgment
>> what you see as 'necessary' and what i do will probably be quite
different
>> and viva la difference
>>
>> 'limit' is a value judgment...  ditto ditto etc
>>
>> so far i see no problems here
>> we have differing opinions
>> more power to us!
>>
>> a problem would occur, however,
>> if one of us attempted to squelch the other's expression
>> which isn't possible in this medium anyway
>> which is part of its miraculousness
>>
>> respect for each other
>> requires weighty but vital portions of tolerance and forgiveness
>> recognition of each other's [and our own] humanity and fallibility
>> in my humble opinion of course
>> [imhooc]
>>
>> janet
>>
>> ps
>> one starts to wonder
>> just what is the dang point of all of this 'sharing' of opinions
>> if no one gets to 'win' the debate?
>>
>> just a little learning maybe
>> and a little more tolerance maybe
>> and a little more understanding maybe
>> and a little less fighting maybe
>> and a little less killing maybe
>>
>> janet paterson
>> 52 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
>> 613 256 8340 po box 171 almonte ontario canada K0A 1A0
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