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hi all

At 09:01 1999/09/24 -0500, darwin wrote, in part:
>...I have been getting three sets of each digest for months now.
>Stopped for a while after I unsubscribed and resubscribed, but
>now doing it again and the same procedure didn't work this time. ...
>We may have to demote our goddess list elf to maybe princess list
>ragamuffin....

1. If the duplication/triplication problem affected all listmembers
one could deduce that LISTSERV is the culprit. That is not the case here.

2. Since Darwin was able to eliminate the problem once by an action
of his, I tend to think the source of his problem is at his end.

3. Since Barb M has had multiple server problems with MSN, I tend to
think the source of her problem is at her end.

4. All of the above is not to imply dereliction of duties by the
list nerdette empress.

5. Computers are not intelligent [yet]. They do as they are told.
Problems and seeming 'mysteries' can and do arise when a sophisticated
and complex e-mail 'client' program interacts with a sophisticated and
complex 'server' program.

6. Such 'mysteries' are not necessarily complex themselves. Generally
they are quite simple, but need to be detected with care and patience.

7. I have read the LISTSERV Owner's and User's manuals cover to cover.
More than once. I subscribe to the LISTSERV owner's mailing list. The
documentation is not perfect. Nothing is. The internet is a growing,
changing and completely unpredictable entity. It and the software supporting
it are a combined mega-work-in-progress.

8. The secret to most LISTSERV problems is in the 'gobbledeegook' headers
which are full of nerdish instructions which are decipherable only by
e-mail software. viz: A normal person would think that these headers
all mean the same thing:
"Reply-to:"
"Sender:"
"From:"
but Nooooo!

9. If anyone receives odd-ball duplications or triplications of messages,
please send them to me ***complete with all headers***, for detection either
by moi or by the mega-nerds at LISTOWNR-L.

10. Please note that sending such e-mail-software-sensitive information
requires > marks at the front of each line, so as to render the gobbledeegook
powerless, or else the message will go into the ethereal equivalent of the
Mobius loop, never to be seen again.

11. If you are still reading this, I salute you and hereby pledge that my
efforts at 'fixing' the problem will reflect equivalent doggedness and
patience.


janet
the nerdette list empress of all she surveys

janet paterson
52 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
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