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I have found the discussion on these dietary supplements somewhat amusing but in fact slightly off the mark. What I would like to know, is whether this stuff actually works. There is a lot of discussion on traditional medication and surgery, much of it very expensive (how much just for the two "pacemakers"?) Now, it is certainly possible that the stuff actually works. So, to make a judgment one really needs some independent data that confirms his claims, which I have not seen. If there really is a measurable long term improvement it certainly gives something for researchers to investigate. Of course looking at the witches brew he prescribes one has to wonder about other long term health effects. I think, however, to condemn someone for a discovery and making money from it is wrong. Isn't that what drug companies do? May be the stuff is expensive but it is not patented (by him [I think], nor should it be). If that is the case, it is essentially trivial for somebody to compete with him at a lower price. But if it really works, may be the antioxidant idea will become mainstream. However, it makes me a little suspicious though to see a long list of ailments which presumably respond to this type of medication. K-F Etzold cg Carline.