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Murray and Paul, I can vouch for Paul. I met Steve, Paul's brother and when I met the 2 of them I couldn't tell initially who had PD. Given what he was described as being like before that is truly amazing. As for farmers, they put our food on our tables and I am grateful for that. And you have to be smart and sophisticated to run a successful farming operation. Paul has helped me have a whole lot of respect for farmers than I had in the past. I guess I too got caught up in the old stereotypes which have pervaded our society. Paul and Steve are sophisticated agribusinessmen and gentlemen as well. .. And Murray they raise pigs- doesn't that count here on the list for something. Charlie Charles T. Meyer, M.D. Middleton(Madison) WI [log in to unmask]