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In a message dated 10/13/99 2:50:49 AM Central Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Will you all help me get 'em to interact by either posting your PD-related tips to the List or be emailing 'em to me? (My guess is that a public posting on the List, of your tips would be of value to many of our newer List members) >> Barb, Perhaps its time to again describe the making of the greatest male urinal in the history of Western Civilization. It's simple to make. Start with a good sized plastic bottle of washing detergent. Carefully remove the inner spout. I used a Dremmel to do it but a determined and careful effort with a sharp knife works. Reseat the cap and test it for leaks. Done properly, it should seal well. From there it is a matter of slight refinements e. g. a pinhole put in the cap for cold nights (as the contents go from 98.6 F to room temperature Boyles law applies and, if not vented, the thing is crushed.) WHH 56/38/37