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I promised you the details, and i cannot give them to you. I have been in communication several times today with both Bob's former place of work and the bank that has the special account, but apparently it is arranged in such a way that the account number cannot just be given out - so the very kind and cooperative lady from Bob's former office is doing her best to untangle the mess. She has promised to let me know as soon as she does. Meantime, se says they are collecting in Livingston - the 4H kids that Bob worked with are out on the streets with tins collecting pennies (I quote her)- talk about grass roots. Just tried one last phone call - and the bank has closed so there is no chance of hearing anything till tomorrow. hilary blue