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i have had only 4 (i think) pieces of mail from pien since midnight. Why should making a fuss about ivan's battle make you an outcast - in fact i think it casts you in - in the hero mould! i'm just not sure what effect making a fuss would have, and i fear it might do more harm than good. however i think that is ivan's judgement call - he is there, and dealing with the people. it is warm and geneorous and caring of you to want to do something about a situation that is untenable. hilary blue Constance Tate wrote: > > no mail today am i an outcast for making a fuss about ivan's battle with > portland > connie tate