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...I'm not a regular subscribe to this(our) messaging centre but on this ever-touchy subject I think[I KNOW] I can contribute viz. as Paul said..'Lord,I believe..help me in my unbelief!' It's not whether you believe but whether you WANT TO BELIEVE OR NOT! I want to! Ergo........I pray! Ron D. avocat wrote: > > To many list members their spirituality and or religious beliefs > are as important a part of their lives as is their Parkinsons. > Denying that is similar to an episode of freezing or operating > withou a limb! If we are as tolerant as we appear to be by an > occasional reference to a PWPs "point of reference," it makes one > wonder if this is really a "support group." I find the group > atmosphere to be so dominated by a few individuals that it > possesses a kind of philosophical (maybe pseudo religious) > fervor/flavor that is at times unnerving. Many PWPs fall back on > their religious beliefs as a means of relaxation, meditation or > coping, which can be of assistance to others. I for one > integrate thoughts from all religious views, if they can assist > me in dealing with my reality. The anti-religious fervor of this > group's moguls borders on intolerance. I do hope this group is > democratic. > > Jacqueline W. Mills > > Carole Hercun wrote: > > > I haven't gotten involved in the Religion Debate, and I > > don't intend to, but I'm with you on this one, Bob. I've > > always believed in the delete button as censor. Carole H. > > > > --- "Robert A. Fink, M. D." <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I have received Charlie Meyer's proposal for taking the > > > discussion of > > > "religion" offlist. While I love such discussions, I am > > > not going to get > > > involved in that since I am busy with other things these > > > days. > > > > > > I do, however, want to comment on the fact that I am > > > strongly > > > opposed to "fragmenting" this List by placing certain > > > subjects "off > > > limits" just because certain people "dislike" reading > > > about them. The > > > "delete button" is present on just about every computer > > > that I have > > > ever heard of. > > > > > > If we set the precedent of making certain topics "taboo" > > > because some > > > people "don't like them", we will take the first step > > > towards dissolving > > > this List (I have seen this happen before on a number of > > > Lists). First it > > > will be religion, and then it will be sexuality, > > > work-related injuries, > > > surgery, fava beans, etc. Suppose I said that > > > discussions concerning > > > pallidotomy were something that I "didn't approve of" and > > > that all > > > postings regarding pallidotomy should be taken offlist. > > > Not a very > > > good idea, IMO. > > > > > > No, I think that religion should be a topic which can be > > > discussed here > > > as long as it has some reference to PD (and most of the > > > religion > > > postings have had such), and that other folks' religions > > > are respected > > > and accepted. > > > > > > If we are going to start "censoring" the topics which are > > > permissible > > > on this List, then I will not be here for very much > > > longer. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., P. C. > > > 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 > > > Berkeley, California 94704-2636 > > > Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557 > > > WWW: <http://www.dovecom.com/rafink/> > > > > > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > > > > > "Ex Tristitia Virtus" > > > > > > ********************************************* > > > > > > > ===== > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com