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on 11/10/99 7:50 AM, bob armentrout at [log in to unmask] wrote: > I've been told i look > very disturbing, but - when i am in this state, i am relatively pain free, > unlike the rest of the time. coming out of it is painful, but whhen it looks > the worst, i hurt the least. You may find you have similar feelings when > you get to thay point fwiw, my foot curling is not painfull if i am 'relaxed' if the contracted muscles do not spasm - twist into 'charley horse' my conjectures include one that perhaps this early morning event has difference depending upon random factors as well as whether i have taken my first levodopa dose soon enough that it is functioning in the peripheral - id est, the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems sufficiently to let the central nervous system know that the curl has come about if the feedback to the central nervous system does not function well enough, the conntracted muscles contract further - giving the spasm - which hurts like hell until the 'twist' is loosened hope this is worth something to have been read ron Ron Vetter 1936, '84 PD dz mailto:[log in to unmask] http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~rfvetter