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I am very concerned that a few members of this list, which I hold in very high regard, feel a need to direct their anger at Janet, using what I see as name calling and value judgements. Some of Janet's posting I find agreeable others I don't, but that is my choice to read or delete. If I have a point of difference, and wish to discuss or even argue with her, I can do that too. I do not know Janet, I have no idea as to who she really is, but what I do know is that she gives a lot of herself to this list. I have not found her to be dishonest but rather firm in her beliefs, probably as much as I in mine. And even if the positions are in opposition, it is difficult for me to accept being cruel to another person, without expressing such personal discomfort when I see it expressed in such fashion as has been done here. I can identify with the object of human violence, and I am trying very hard to reach a point of reconciliation, I am leaning that I have the power to forgive, and the power to not forget, and the power to learn. And most importantly to question the why for the feeling... Bernie