There are , I feel, large differences between discussions, debates and arguments. The first is or can be educational and everybody wins the others often get heated and no-win Bob A ----- Original Message ----- From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 10:37 PM Subject: Re: RELIGION and the list > hi all > > At 21:46 1999/11/14 -0500, greg wrote, in part: > >... but cannot see the relevance of religion and its impact > >on PD other than to give some sort of personal innerpeace... > > i personally found the diagnosis of pd and my acceptance of same > a real "wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee call" > i started looking at my priorities pretty hard then > and am still making adjustments > > i think that a diagnosis of any condition > which is chronic and incurable and degenerative > would affect most people in similar ways; > it's a profound and intimate and solitary > not to mention frightening event/trauma/realization > to have to come to grips with; > any or all of which qualities would probably > send most people scurrying to their 'creed' for comfort > > >I try to avoid discussions on religion and politics because they > >are both no-win situations. As proof I only need to refer to the > >much heated debate on the subject... > > what is it about a heated debate > that make you feel it's a no-win situation? > > someone here once described a "vigourous discussion" > as something like "aerobics for the mind" > > >I only started to question the religion posts to prove a point to > >myself about the raw nerve religious debate touches in people... > > not in everyone, surely? and not every debate? > > >I also did it to try and provoke some emotion out of > >what I felt were some fairly bland discussions.... > > hey > wait a minute > have you not just contradicted yourself, > or gone full circle,or fulfilled your own prophecies > or am i missing something here? > > 1. religious discussions are no-win; the proof being > 2. the heated debate which developed on the list > 3. religious debates touch raw nerves in people > 4. the religious discussions on the list were so bland > 5. that you actively provoked emotions > > > janet > > whose religious birth-right comprised > a protestant mother > assisted by a catholic doctor > in a jewish hospital >