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C'mon Bob you're splitting hairs. Greg ************************************************************************** Date: Monday, November 15, 1999 11:07 AM Subject: Re: RELIGION and the list >There are , I feel, large differences between discussions, debates and >arguments. The first is or can be educational and everybody wins the others >often get heated and no-win >Bob A >----- Original Message ----- >From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 10:37 PM >Subject: Re: RELIGION and the list > > >> hi all >> >> At 21:46 1999/11/14 -0500, greg wrote, in part: >> >... but cannot see the relevance of religion and its impact >> >on PD other than to give some sort of personal innerpeace... >> >> i personally found the diagnosis of pd and my acceptance of same >> a real "wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee call" >> i started looking at my priorities pretty hard then >> and am still making adjustments >> >> i think that a diagnosis of any condition >> which is chronic and incurable and degenerative >> would affect most people in similar ways; >> it's a profound and intimate and solitary >> not to mention frightening event/trauma/realization >> to have to come to grips with; >> any or all of which qualities would probably >> send most people scurrying to their 'creed' for comfort >> >> >I try to avoid discussions on religion and politics because they >> >are both no-win situations. As proof I only need to refer to the >> >much heated debate on the subject... >> >> what is it about a heated debate >> that make you feel it's a no-win situation? >> >> someone here once described a "vigourous discussion" >> as something like "aerobics for the mind" >> >> >I only started to question the religion posts to prove a point to >> >myself about the raw nerve religious debate touches in people... >> >> not in everyone, surely? and not every debate? >> >> >I also did it to try and provoke some emotion out of >> >what I felt were some fairly bland discussions.... >> >> hey >> wait a minute >> have you not just contradicted yourself, >> or gone full circle,or fulfilled your own prophecies >> or am i missing something here? >> >> 1. religious discussions are no-win; the proof being >> 2. the heated debate which developed on the list >> 3. religious debates touch raw nerves in people >> 4. the religious discussions on the list were so bland >> 5. that you actively provoked emotions >> >> >> janet >> >> whose religious birth-right comprised >> a protestant mother >> assisted by a catholic doctor >> in a jewish hospital >> >