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GREG are we not allowed to express our opinions without being characterized as zealots? believe what you want, but allow me to express my beliefs. i am not trying to impose my beliefs on others you state that you want to get back to battling PD, yet you seem to want to eliminate one of the methods i heavily rely on, my belief in GOD, from this board. "tell me it ain't so" Greg." I'll believe ya.". murph