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Bob, I presume he meant Pavlovian Bob. But considering Greg's attack on me for my "double talk" and "request" that I write in English Howard had better watch out for an attack by Greg. The irony is that politically my position is probably closer to Greg's than it is to yours, Murph's etc. I do not believe in state sponsored religion such as prayer, Bible reading or other religious celebrations in schools. I think it is intrusive and interferes with freedom of or from religion. I am pro choice and think that anti-abortion people are attempting to force their religious beliefs onto others. Nonetheless, I refuse to be censored or stand by and watch others (even those I disagree with) be intimidated by bullying or by other means. I am willing to consider voluntarily moving a thread off of the list or curtail it because of volume or relevance but I will not be bullied off . I have expressed concern in the past about the list volume and its effect on membership. But with the advent of SPARKLE and filtering mechanisms I think discussion has become more relevant while everyone's needs continue to be met. There was a problem and we fixed it. IMHO we can discuss change in the list civilly and evolve without name-calling which has been so prevalent in this discussion/debate/argument. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Anibal <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 12:39 PM Subject: Re: : Re 387th post debating religious philosophy > What is pavlonian?/ I have been called a lot of things in my 81 years but > what is this - what language? > Bob A. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Howard Ekholm <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 12:22 PM > Subject: : Re 387th post debating religious philosophy > > > > Your religious debate is waste of both time and mind. You pavlonian > > PDs are too much (should be easy to treat though. Shovel needed.) > > > > Pls TEMP/REMOVE ME FROM LIST > >