Hang in there Barb you can do it I quit cold about 8 years ago after smoking about a half million cigarettes in 60 years . tough few days but it can be done. When people told me about quitting and how hard it was, I used to say "It's easy, I quit 5 or 6 times every day" Then one day I said to myself no more. Love Bob Anibal ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:52 PM Subject: Safe place? What belongs on the list? > Hi, list-folks....ummm...we seem to have had a little spurt of uproar > again, to say the least. I must admit that I haven't been reading the > religious war as closely as I perhaps should have. My thoughts about > what I had read was along the lines of "certainly is making folks think & > write their opinions". You know, the first support group meeting I went > to just a few weeks after being diagnosed scared the daylights out of > me. Those pwp's were elderly, expressionless & obviously ill. Now, I > realize that behind that facade that pd puts up between us, there are > still very wise people with very strong feelings on many topics...people > who are not hesitant to express their feelings very clearly...which makes > this journey with pd not quite as scary. > > I hope that we all feel that this is a safe place to ask/answer questions > and to be open and honest about ourselves without fear of harassment or > embarassment. If there is anything that makes this impossible, let's work > together towards a solution. We are battling pd...that's war enough and > work enough...we don't need to battle each other even with words. We can > agree to disagree but defend each other's right to express his/her > opinions. > > Many members only feel comfortable as 'list-lurkers' which is a totally > acceptable use of the list. Unfortunately, there really are the other > type of lurkers out there who seem to have no purpose in their lives other > than to cause trouble & hurt feelings. I don't pretend to know why they > do what they do...that's up to people with much more education and > specialized training than I have. The best suggestion I have about > dealing with them is to not give them the reaction they are asking for. > Charlie, perhaps you can give us better advice about this. I hope so. > > Anyway, folks....about the 'list-rules' 'list-purpose'...as I've said > before, there are over 1800 of us so there are at least 1800 opinions > about the purpose of the list. The list rules are about as flexible as > rules can get...in fact, maybe 'list-suggestions' would be a better > description. The firmest one would be: Thou shalt not interfere with a > fellow listmember's right to feel safe and welcome to post to the list > (and thou shalt not use the list for monetary gain). > > So....can we take aim again at our mutual enemy, pd? Has everyone who > possible can written to their political representatives asking > (demanding) funding for pd research? Does anyone have any suggestions > about the effects of quitting smoking on pwp's (This is my eigth day > without smoking...after 30 years of smoking)? > > Barb > > > =========================================================================== > Barbara Patterson [log in to unmask] > HSC 2J22 905-525-9140, ext. 22403 > School of Nursing > =========================================================================== >