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>Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:45:17 -0500 >From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Has Microsoft destroyed mailing lists? / Rant Exchange? >To: [log in to unmask] > >hi all > >our list is enjoying a kopyright kefuffle right now >so 'ownership' is at the forefront of my consciousness > >i would like to offer my rant [further below] as a trade >for permission to replicate this exchange [immediately below] > >the exchange between Russ Hunt and Joe Clark forms >the clearest description of e-mail history >that i have seen > >i think it would be of great help to a lot of our list-members, >who are not only new to the net but new to computing, >as well as potentially under emotional stress > >credited, non credited, makes no nevermind to me > >how about it? > >janet > > >-----rant number one----------------------------------------------- >At 14:36 1999/11/21 AST4ADT, Russ Hunt wrote, in reply to Joe Clark: >>Yes. Or at least seriously damaged. >> >>> Is it excessive to blame Microsoft for destroying the enjoyment of >>> today's mailing lists? >> >>No. >> >>> (I am quite aware that people can and do turn off HTML and avoid >>> quoting the whole preceding message. But don't try to kid me: We >>> know from experience as listowners that *maybe* one in ten does >>> so.) >> >>Absolutely. Especially because M$ tells people they don't need to >>know or do anything to run the stuff, and then blindsides them by >>giving them stuff that makes their mail unreadable. >> >>I think the problem is that at M$ there's no history, and no need to >>know about it. They don't know, or care, that conventions and >>protocols for exchanging text already existed before they started >>developing their bloatware, and they have no reason to know, or >>care, because everybody buys their stuff anyway. >> >>(They're also destroyed file name conventions, but don't get me >>started on that . . .). >> >> -- Russ >> __|~_ >>Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ Professor of English >>St. Thomas University )_ __)_|_)__ __) PHONE: (506) 452-0424 >>Fredericton, New Brunswick | )____) | FAX: (506) 450-9615 >>E3B 5G3 CANADA ___|____|____|____/ [log in to unmask] >> \ / >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.StThomasU.ca/~hunt/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >-----rant number two---------------------------------------------- > >Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:43:18 -0500 >From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: LIST: Re: Duplicates - E-mail Formats - Plain/Text Vs > Multipart/Mixed >To: [log in to unmask] > >Hi all; > >In reply our duplicate-message-problem listmember: > >Somewhere in between sending your first message and your second message to me yesterday, >your e-mail software settings got changed from this: > >>Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >> boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BF26EE.C75CADF8" > >to this: > >>Content-Type: text/plain > >which very likely has been behind the 'duplicates problem' all along. > >MS Exchange may refer to "Content-Type:" in different terms; but this is a critical setting in instructing the mail server machines as to the formatting of your messages. > >"Multipart/Mixed" refers to new-ish options available for sending messages in formats other than "Plain/Text", i.e. in HTML format for viewing as a WWWeb document, and in another image format [possibly GIF] for viewing as a graphics document. > >Sending E-mail in formats other than "Plain/Text" is a badly conceived idea, in my humble opinion - doing so contradicts all the internet conventions and standards which established the universal accessibility of this miraculous medium in the first place. > >"Multipart/Mixed E-mail" strikes me as an OxyMoron of the most Moronic type. > >If Microsoft [my suspicion] conceived of this concept, well, all I can say is, "It figures." > >The "boring" Plain/Text format [no fancy fonts, no fancy colours, no fancy graphics] of internet communication forms the backbone and structure of the net. > >"All you get" are the words, but the words get to all. > >Maybe that's what Marshall McLuhan [a former Professor of English at the University of Toronto!] meant when he said, "The medium is the message." > >And now I say, "Mixing the medium is a mess." > > >janet >on a rant > >------------end of rants---------------------------------------------- > > >janet paterson >52 now / 41 dx / 37 onset >e-mail - [log in to unmask] >web-site - http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Village/6263/ > janet paterson 52 now / 41 dx / 37 onset e-mail - [log in to unmask] web-site - http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Village/6263/