Barb I have an idea that I would like to run by the listmembers and, of course, you. The PIEN is a powerful force for PWPs and CG's but it has an ingredient that is underused. Everyone signed on has uniques talents and interests, which could be helpful to others, IF they knew about them. My suggestion: For the next month, add, at the end of each post, the occupation(s) and hobbies of the PWP, CG. or the person writing. In my case, it would be "Copier/duplicator technician, radio and record collector" If any of the parties are no longer working, so what? You always have knowledge you can share. I admit it might take some time away from PD discussions, but it could also help us understand more about each other and be more interesting than some of the negative "stuff" that creeps in at times. Anyone who does not want to particpate, can just ignore the extra line. What made me think of this? I need some advice from a plumber and a marble tile installer, for example, and I think in a population of 1800 users, there should be at least one of each. In case I can't get back on Friday: I wish all a HAPPY HEALTHY NEW YEAR, and a CURE for Parkinson's that could help ALL afflicted, and be ready to USE in the next few months. Ken B