Lanier....

 Why thank you, sir!  <Barb bows to the left, bows to right, and
bows toward
Chattanooga.>.. <smile>  Ya just made my day!

Hugs..

Barb (QUACK, QUACK) Mallut <giggle>

-----Original Message-----
From: plmaddux <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 4:05 PM
Subject: Non PD, My nomination


>Hi Everyone, I would like to nominate this msg from Barb as the
funniest
>E-Mail of the year. In fact I think it is the funniest one I have
ever
>gotten in my 3 years on the ListServ. Thanks for the laughs Barb.
>
>Lanier Maddux         Chattanooga Tn.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barb_MSN" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:32 PM
>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
>
>
>> Darwin....
>>
>> OK... ok.... so what's a little arrogance amongst friends?
<grin>
>>
>>  I've been SO busy feathering my wee new nest (I absolutely
LOVE
>> this oh-so-Parkie-friendly condo complex!) , plus studying
>> "duckology," (which is the study of DUCKS as opposed to
>> QUACKology, which is the study of shyster-doctors, as you all
>> know) <giggle> while paintin,' plantin' 'n potchkyin' (to all
>> youse who ain't of the Jewish persuasion, "potchkying around"
is
>> the same as doing lotsa :"whatever."  Kinda like "piddling
around
>> doing the "same ol same ol."
>>
>> Sooo, with all this potchkying 'round I forgot for a moment
which
>> hat I was wearing as I wrote the message you referred to.
>>
>> By  the way, the Mallard ducks, who reside in the many small
ponds
>> and streams which dapple the condo complex are busy MATING now.
>> Sheeesh!  I'm surprised that them gal-ducks can even WALK by
>> evening!) <giggle>
>>
>> Gotta go commune with the duckies as ir's been at LEAST 3
minutes
>> since I've heard any quacking.  For all I know the president of
>> the condo association might have up and sold the ducks to a
>> chinese restaurant to make into Peking Duck!  <YUMMY> <smirk>
>>
>> Oh.... and thanks for the kind words 'bout my sense of humor,
>> Darwin. It's a nice feeling to know one's appreciated.
>>
>> Barb Mallut
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hawkins, Darwin <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
<[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
>>
>>
>> >HA! That's a likely story! The truth finally has come out.
>> Freudian still
>> >reigns!
>> >
>> >(P.S. If you are not the most knowledgeable and/or arrogant,
you
>> certainly
>> >are one of the funniest on the list!)
>> >
>> >> ----------
>> >> From:         Barb_MSN[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> >> Sent:         Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:40 AM
>> >> Subject:      Re: PD Med's Question
>> >>
>> >> OYE!!!!! <--- Barb smacks self on forehead!  I GOOFED!  I
had
>> >> meant to say I"m NOT the most PD-knowledgeable amongst the
List
>> >> members, but have SOME knowledge 'bout the disease after all
>> these
>> >> years living with it/
>> >>
>> >> That' "NOT" not being there sure made me sound arrogant!
>> WHEW!!!
>> >> T'ain't that when it comes to this steeeenkin disease.
>> >>
>> >> Barb Mallut
>> >> [log in to unmask]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Barb_MSN <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:29 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Sue....
>> >> >
>> >> >First of all, there's never been a "posting limit" on this
>> List
>> >> >that I know of, and I've been logging on daily for 'bout 6
>> years
>> >> >or so.
>> >> >
>> >> >If there IS a limit to the number of messages one can post
at
>> a
>> >> >time then SOME of us are in BIIIIIIIG trouble! <grin>
>> >> >
>> >> >So relax, m'dear, and post away - get it all out and know
you
>> can
>> >> >count on the folks here on the List to be supportive as
well
>> as
>> >> >knowledgeable about our mutual adversary, Parkinson's
Disease.
>> >> >
>> >> >Regarding your questions, please keep in mind that I'm not
an
>> MD,
>> >> >but rather have had PD for 25 of my 57 years.   I"m the the
>> most
>> >> >"up" on the disease whom you'll hear from over the next few
>> days,
>> >> >but I have a more than a little general information.
>> >> >
>> >> >Your question #1:
>> >> >
>> >> >Your mom should be seen and diagnosed by at least once by a
>> >> >neurologist who is a "movement disorder specialist.  This
time
>> >> >might be the best time for for your mother to see this type
of
>> >> >specialist since you both have unanswered questions with
her
>> >> >current neuro.
>> >> >
>> >> >There's one easy way to find out if someone has PD
>> >> >and that's to give them Sinemet (the "gold standard"
>> >> >of  PD drugs).  If it dosn't work then mom almost
>> >> >certainly doesn't have PD.
>> >> >
>> >> >As far as PD not being diagnosable at "this stage,"
>> >> >there ARE noticable symptoms and a half-way decent
>> >> >neuro SHOULD be able to diagose your mother
>> >> >based upon those symptoms.
>> >> >
>> >> >Question #2:
>> >> >
>> >> >Parkinson's CAN be inherited, tho it's not terribly
>> >> >common to find familiel PD families on every street
>> >> >corner.  There are lots of folks here in the List and at
>> >> >many of our local PD support groups who know someone
>> >> >ARE someone who's the third or forth direct decendant of
>> >> >someone or other in their family to have PD, or one
>> >> >of the other PD-like diseaes, referred to as
>> >> >"Parkinson's Plus."
>> >> >
>> >> >Question #3:
>> >> >
>> >> >Mom's neurologist is just plain wrong!   See
>> >> >above response....
>> >> >
>> >> >Hang in there, Sue.  And the next time you go to or
>> >> >speak with mom's neuro or  another MD who might
>> >> >see her, go armed with a list of all your, AND a
>> >> >portable tape recorder (if possible) so you can tape
>> >> >the MD's response.   It's SOOOO easy to forget
>> >> >to write down the doctor's response to those questions.
>> >> >his way you won't have to worry about rushing to write
>> >> >it all down.
>> >> >
>> >> >Hang in there, Sue, and hugs to mom 'n you...
>> >> >
>> >> >Barb Mallut
>> >> >[log in to unmask]
>> >> >
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: Sue George <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 8:44 PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>Morning all.  I feel nervous of ... posting a query ...
(very
>> >> >ignorant about
>> >> >>it all) ... but ... would like to ask:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>My mother has uncontrollable tremors that are getting
worse.
>> My
>> >> >grandfather
>> >> >>had similar tremors but was never diagnosed as having PD,
in
>> >> >fact, for all
>> >> >>we know, it was never diagnosed as anything.  He died at
87
>> ...
>> >> >with bad
>> >> >>enough tremors that he couldn't write and had difficulty
>> walking
>> >> >... but
>> >> >>other than that ... quite ... healthy (if that's the
word?).
>> >> >Anyway ... mum
>> >> >>has now got these tremors and they are getting worse and
>> she's
>> >> >been to the
>> >> >>doctor and then the neurologist ... who said ... "it isn't
>> >> >hereditary" and
>> >> >>"there isn't any real way to diagnose it at this stage"
but
>> "you
>> >> >could have
>> >> >>it and a i can't say that you haven't got it and we'll
just
>> have
>> >> >to wait and
>> >> >>see what happens".  I'm paraphrasing here and from mum's
>> >> relating
>> >> >of the
>> >> >>conversation but .. that's about it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Mum feels anxious and upset about it and believes, i
think,
>> that
>> >> >she
>> >> >>definitely had PD ... that it is just a matter of time
before
>> it
>> >> >is
>> >> >>diagnosed.  This is just her "feeling" but it is still a
very
>> >> >difficult time
>> >> >>for her.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Anyway ... i got onto the net ... found your list ... and
i
>> was
>> >> >wondering if
>> >> >>someone could help me understand a few things:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>(i) i found some sites on the net where they were
advertising
>> or
>> >> >talking
>> >> >>about diagnosis services (imaging, dna) .... are these
useful
>> >> ...
>> >> >why not
>> >> >>recommended by the doctor?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>(ii) i also read on the net that PD was not normally
thought
>> to
>> >> >be
>> >> >>hereditary ... which made me wonder ... "then how can they
>> use
>> >> >dna
>> >> >>diagnosis?  what is that about?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >>(iii) also, if PD isn't hereditary ... then perhaps the
>> >> >neuromuscular
>> >> >>disorder that mum and grandpa have/had is not PD but
>> something
>> >> >else?  what
>> >> >>are the other neuromuscular disorders which cause this
sought
>> of
>> >> >symptom?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>This seems like too many questions.  Sorry.  I feel like i
>> >> >suddenly have a
>> >> >>thousand questions?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I hope it is OK to post so many at one time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>thanks
>> >> >>sue
>> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >>From: Nancy Burnham <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>Date: Tuesday, 11 April 2000 10:33
>> >> >>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>In the very beginning Don's doctor prescribed Artane.  We
>> read
>> >> >the side
>> >> >>>effects and decided to keep the tremors.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Nancy B  cg for Don 66/17
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>>From: Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:32 PM
>> >> >>>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> On Sun 09 Apr, plmaddux wrote:
>> >> >>>> > Hi Folks,
>> >> >>>> > After having a tremor for 4 1/2 years I decided to
try
>> >> >taking a med
>> >> >>>> > prescribed by my doctor. He thought that Artane was
the
>> >> most
>> >> >approiate
>> >> >>>drug
>> >> >>>> > for my symptoms, that being a left side tremor. I had
>> been
>> >> >taking
>> >> >>>Benadryl
>> >> >>>> > which was giving me some relief but it was not
helping
>> much
>> >> >and I was
>> >> >>>> > beginning to have a headache all the time.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hello Lanier, Re your 1st paragraph :    You show me a
>> doc.
>> >> >who thinks he
>> >> >>>> can select an appropriate treatment based on the
patients
>> >> >symptoms, and
>> >> >>>> I'll show you a fool !
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Artane is an Anticholinergic drug. It blocks the
>> production
>> >> of
>> >> >>>acetylcholine
>> >> >>>> (another neurotransmitter) The reasoning (!!) is that
if
>> >> there
>> >> >is less
>> >> >>>> acetylcholine , it may make more room fpr Dopamine. I
was
>> >> >prescribed
>> >> >>>Artane
>> >> >>>> immediately upon diagnosis, and I think went up to 10
mg
>> in
>> >> >the first
>> >> >>year
>> >> >>>> (Well it was 21 years ago). Of course at that time, I
>> thought
>> >> >that they
>> >> >>>> knew what they were doing.  I suppose there was a
slight
>> >> >reduction in
>> >> >>>tremor
>> >> >>>> but it was never in control . I made a fuss and was
>> switched
>> >> >to Sinemet,
>> >> >>>> which I urge you to do also.
>> >> >>>> Regards,
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Brian Collins  <[log in to unmask]>  (60/39/34)
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
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