Jeez, Murray what are your messages like when you're annoyed.
So the guy has some difficulty accepting the gift of free feedback ... A lot
of people get defensive.  Put on your consultant's hat and sell him
community-based debugging support.

BTW
1. I'm running Netscape Communicator 4.7, i.e. latest version
2. I get a black page, no text, nothing clickable
3. JavaScript enabled except for mail/news

Murray Charters wrote:
>
> Hi Gregory,
> I think you missed the point in my post!
>
> Some can't upgrade! Some can't disable javascript! They don't have it!
> Anyone with a non javascript browser that attempts to go to
> your homepage at: http:www.parkinson.org  is not getting anywhere!
>
> All they get is (usually) a blank page!  Some, as Frans found, get
> an error message.  Some, as I discovered, trying several browsers
> on several patforms, get an animation in the form of a twirling tri-corn.
> Some get the text National Parkinson Foundation followed by the text
> Blazing Toward a Cure and the hyperlink enter which then takes
> them to http://www.parkinson.org/index.
>
> Incidently, nowhere did I see "text version".  If you have a browser
> that gets you to a text version hyperlink then you probably would
> not have a problem.
>
> The point was that access is being denied to those unable to
> upgrade!  The point was that your revised homepage doesn't
> address any accessibility guideline.  The point was that thousands
> have bookmarked http://www.parkinson.org  and other sites have
> linked to http://www.parkinson.org.  I notice it is a part of your
> signature below.  It's out there!  The point was that the very people
> you should be serving are receiving a dis-service! The point was that
> any service or medical site should be accessible to everyone in some
> manner, and sites that address the disabled, like yours, in particular.
>
> I'm disapointed in anyone's attitude that says just get the free
> 20 meg upgrade.  It usually means you have to also upgrade your
> operating system and your hardware.  It doesn't fit on a 386 running
> Windows 3.1.   Who uses such antique computers?  Plenty of
> folks who can't afford the "free" option above.  No one should be
> forced to upgrade to the latest software.  Have you not seen MicroSoft
> vs. the State in the press?
>
> I have successfully browsed the Internet with 386's for a number
> of years and plan on continuing to support others with free
> hardware. Plenty of people around the globe don't use Internet
> Explorer or Netscape at all!  There are lots of other browsers.
>
> Please reconsider the Accessibility Guidelines.
>
> There are one and a half million people with Parkinsons.  Not all
> are wealthy enough to afford pentiums with IE5.  Is Dr. Lieberman
> only gonna answer questions for the rich and lucky from now on?
>
> I urge you to think about it...
>
> I've taken the liberty of posting this letter as a cc on the forum that
> spawned the initial query.  (The PARKINSN List)
>
> Regards ......... murray
>
> *************************************************************************
>
> On 16 Apr 2000, at 15:08, Gregory Izak wrote:
>
> > Dear Sir:
> >
> > The person having difficulty with our website can either (1) upgrade their web
> > browser which is free either from Microsoft or Netscape.  Our site works best
> > with versions 4 and above. (2) There is a link on the upper left hand side of
> > that says "Text Version"  If they click on this they will be taken to our site
> > that doesn't contain  any fancy graphics or animation.  The direct link is
> > http://www.parkinson.org/texthtms/tindex.htm or (3) Disable javascript in their
> > browser's settings (options) area.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Gregory Izak
> > National Parkinson Foundation, Inc.
> > 1501 NW Ninth Avenue
> > Bob Hope Road
> > Miami, FL  33136
> > 305-243-2982
> > 800-327-4545
> > http://www.parkinson.org
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Murray Charters" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
> > Cc: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 3:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: www.parkinson.org
> >
> >
> > > On 16 Apr 2000, at 14:24, Frans van Duinen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can anyone access this site?  I keep getting the message:
> > > > "JavaScript error. Type 'javascript' into Location for details
> > > > --
> > > > Frans van Duinen
> > > >      (416) 652-8580
> > > >      Toronto, Ontario
> > >
> > > Hi Frans,
> > > Try this for now....
> > > http://www.parkinson.org/index.htm
> > >
> > > http://www.parkinson.org is inaccessible due to them "fancying"
> > > it up with java-script and animation with no consideration given to
> > > accessibility.
> > >
> > > They need to go to:
> > > There is a test for "accessibility" available free at:
> > > http://www.cast.org/bobby/
> > > and include that as a requirement.
> > >
> > > This was the very point of a large portion of my
> > > post WWWeb Resources 16 - Disability & Accessibility.
> > >
> > > I've copied their webmaster on this e-mail and sent them
> > > WWWeb Resources 16 - Disability & Accessibility seperately.
> > >
> > > Best regards .................. murray
> > >
> > >
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > >
> >
>
> [log in to unmask]

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     Toronto, Ontario