Hello All, I am surprised at this list going on about Depression. I myself
have to take two tablets a day the tablets are called Seroxat...
Paroxetinhydrochlorid. I have accepted that Parkinson is a depressive
illness maybe because I know that there is at the moment no cure. I think
that we all are entitled to write about whatever subject interests us. I
read all of the posts but I have the delete key handy so there is no real
problem. A little more tolerance might be helpful on this list. From myself
as well. Bern......peace











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----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Paterson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: 02 August 2000 14:21
Subject: Re: janet's rants on clinical depression (cd) and suicide / on
second thought


> cross-pollination from the mgh webforum
>
> posted August 02, 2000 07:39 AM
>
> Thank you, Janet. This is provoking material. I'm very glad to see this
thread here, because I
> see a lot of denial of depression issues in this forum. My own postings on
depression sink
> like a rock, with few replies (maybe I should rant more). There are even
comments in other
> threads stating that we don't have suicidal people here, etc, etc (maybe I
should call them
> down when they happen).
>
> Every case of Parkinson's Disease carries with it a high probability of
co-occurring
> depression (the usual guess is around 40%).
>
> Every case of Clinical Depression, left untreated, will eventually lead to
thoughts of
> hopelessness and suicide. These thoughts often come against the will of
and contrary to the
> personality of the sufferer.
>
> Both disorders require a lot of fortitude to fight, because doctors really
don't know the
> mechanisms of the chemical imbalances nor how the drugs to treat them
actually work,
> necessitating a sometimes long and tedious process of discovering what
treatment will work.
>
> Denial due to social stigma is something we can put an end to. Denial of a
neurotransmitter
> disorder makes about as much sense as denial of a broken leg. Why do
people accept
> treatment for a "movement disorder" and refuse treatment for a "mental
> disorder"???
>
> Remember the post on neurotransmitters? (I didn't think so.)
> ---Serotonin regulates worry and anger.
> ---Dopamine regulates initiative and pleasure.
> ---Norepinephrine regulates alertness and energy.
> ---Treatment for clinical depression may require a combination of drugs to
affect a
> combination of neurotransmitters.
>
> Well, I'm trying to hang on to my job, so I gotta go. Hope this isn't off
the thread, Janet. I was
> sorry to hear about Paige, although I didn't know her. I'm hoping that our
ranting will help
> someone else.
>
> posted August 02, 2000 08:15 AM
>
> your reply is not off the thread, jaye.
> in my humble opinion,
> it is right on the money.
> maybe it's time to post about neurotransmitters again;
> i missed it and it sounds interesting.
> several months ago,
> i set up a 'suicide' page on my website
> along with other topics culled from my list messages,
> and the suicide page was the most frequently visited.
> i'm thinking of expanding it - maybe i could include your post?
> lack of response to this subject
> [again imho]
> doesn't reflect a lack of interest
> on the contrary
> it seems to me it reflects
> the level of denial and shame
> surrounding the subject.
> in re the incidence of cd in pd,
> the figure i have up with most often
> is 50%.
> and 80% of all cd goes undiagnosed and untreated.
> so there are a lot of parkies out there
> caught up in feeling hopeless and despondent
> totally and completely unnecessarily.
> as a cause of death in the usa,
> suicide rates among the top ten,
> and is higher than homicide.
> why is there no outcry against this
> deadly epidemic?
> toxic shame and embarassment?
> phooey, say i
>
> janet