I guess killing wheat WOULD ripen it uniformly.  As close as I ever have
been to a farm is a vegetable garden.

I was "pulled" or "volunteered" (lol) to do spraying so I guess you could
say I was only a novice.  We had a "certified" person who was supposed to do
the spraying.  We had gloves & paper masks, but never used them.  When your
in your 20's you just kinda think you will live forever.

Working for non profit organizations most of my adult life, I always had a
second job.  Much of the time I worked as a mechanic.  Restoring old cars
WAS also a hobby.  I have been using Carburetor cleaner "dip tanks" both at
work & home.  That stuff goes right through rubber gloves after 20 or 30
minutes.  It doesn't melt them, just kinda warps them.   It sure made me
feel strange, and gave me a "cold - numbing" sensation half way up my arms.

By the way I put one to many zero's on the tank size.  It should have read
3,000, not 30,000 gal.   Ooopppps ! ! !



David Meigs
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Diswinka" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Rotenone & roundup


> > From:  davidmeigs <[log in to unmask]>
>
> snip
>
> >
> > I think the "Roundup" is only used to KILL the vegetation.
> >
>
> Yep, It takes no prisoners, currently, you are right its supposed to kill
> ALL vegetation dead, thats why it is used to kill the grain. It has done
> that perfectly over the years of use.
> However, some of the plants classified as weeds are already becoming
> genetically resistent to it!
>
> > I've sprayed thousands of gal. of this stuff.  In fact we would mix it
in
> > 30,000 gal batches.  And we would mix 2 to 3 batches per day.  We used
it to
> > control plant growth on the shoulders of WA state highways.
> >
> > Some orchards would use it to "prune" excess portions of branches.  We
> > sprayed other herbicides in equal volumes as roundup.   I supervised a
group
> > of juvenile "offenders" and I pet many of them doing it as "job
training"
> > (on orders).   We only did it for a couple months per year.  Thank God I
> > have not done it for over 16 years.
>
> Did you or they. wear protective clothing( gloves), breathing filters, and
> eyecover when handling it...etc?
> >
> > The company reps for this stuff would mix it up in a glass & drink it to
> > demonstrate its safety.  I wonder if there are statistics of neuro
disorders
> > on the company reps that drank the stuff?
>
> Just because a person is in "direct contact or injests a toxic chemical
that
> may cause neuro disorders does not mean you automatically get a neuro
> disorder."  They might or might not have gotten any neuro disorders, but
> also may or may not have gotten other diseases such as leukemia and
certain
> types of cancer. There is a private study being done now and has been over
> the past several years-- on people who have been full time sprayer
operators
> for highways, electrical companies, farmers, etc. since they have a higher
> incidence of these diseases and since their kids are born with and die
with
> a higher incidence of these diseases.
>
> However,the public will probably never get to know the results of this
> study.
>
> >
> > David Meigs
> >
>
> Don 51/3 PD+