Hi Emily,
I was very careful in not saying anything about faith on this. What I
believe I keep to myself when it comes to God.
 I just do not understand about the stem cell thing I guess. I do know that
if it involves a woman's egg then it might be life that is all I was trying
to say. Janice
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Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT


> Janice,
> You are mentioning of taking a life to help yourself as unacceptable. I
> do not know if I understand. There was a point made about growing your
> own stem cells from your own DNA. This would not take somebody else's
> life. Do not misunderstand me. I am PRO LIFE too. I also question how do
> we know for certain all of God's plans? I truly do not want to spin
> another discussion about our own faith.
> Emily
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT
>
>
> > I know what you are trying to say, I just said things that I saw on
> TV. It
> > is being said that it is not life with out a sperm and I just
> disagree, for
> > we now have a sheep and a kitten that did not need sperm to be made.
> So with
> > all this other I feel if it is let to grow and can become a baby I am
> not
> > for it that is all. I one would choose to shake to death before taking
> a
> > life to help me. Janice
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Bowers <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 6:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT
> >
> >
> > > Dear Janice,
> > >
> > > I for one am opposed to reproductive cloning, which aims to create
> human
> > > beings by cloning human embryos. But I'm not alone. Patients
> advocacy
> > groups
> > > and leading scientists, including the National Academy of Sciences,
> and a
> > > huge majority of the American people agree that human reproductive
> cloning
> > > should not be pursued.
> > >
> > >  What we're talking about here is that SCNT could lead to dramatic
> new
> > > treatments and cures for now-incurable diseases and medical
> conditions.
> > SCNT
> > > could be used to help nearly 100 million Americans suffer from
> cancer,
> > > Alzheimer's, diabetes, Parkinson's, spinal cord injuries, heart
> disease,
> > > ALS, and other devastating conditions for which treatments must
> still be
> > > found. Proof of the principle for SCNT has been established in
> recently
> > > published research on disease in mice.Moreover SCNT is widely
> supported in
> > > the U.S., for instance by the Nation's leading medical scientists,
> > including
> > > the National Academy of Sciences, major patient advocacy
> organizations,
> > the
> > > American public, Republicans and Democrats and religious leaders.
> > >
> > > However the Brownback bill would have devastating results. It would
> ban
> > > SCNT, or therapeutic cloning, cutting-off hope to millions of
> Americans
> > with
> > > life-threatening diseases; make it illegal for U.S. citizens to seek
> SCNT
> > > treatment abroad.  This means that a patient who may have little
> hope left
> > > could be thrown in jail upon re-entry to the U.S. if they went to
> another
> > > country to have treatment using SCNT. The bill calls for sending any
> U.S.
> > > scientist to jail for developing SCNT therapies in a petri dish;
> makes it
> > > illegal for U.S. scientists to import SCNT therapies that were
> developed
> > in
> > > other countries. In short, passage of Brownback-or any ban on this
> > > research-runs counter to our nation's history as the world's leader
> in
> > > biomedical research.Even a temporary ban on SCNT (such as a
> moratorium)
> > > would cripple this promising field and delay patients' access to
> > potentially
> > > life-saving treatments.
> > >
> > > And one final point that I would like to make.  When we start saying
> when
> > > life begins and when life ends and God is for this science and God
> is
> > > against that science, we limit God. How can we as His creation begin
> to
> > know
> > > the true mind of God?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Terry Bowers
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Janice Morgan" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:40 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Debra/no sperm in SCNT
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Rayilyn Brown,
> > > >  I hear what you are saying, does that mean that Dolly the sheep
> that
> > was
> > > a
> > > > clone from an egg no sperm not a real sheep. What about the kitten
> that
> > > came
> > > > from an egg no sperm was that a real kitten. I saw on TV where and
> > > > independent company cloned an mans DNA from an egg and they said
> if it
> > was
> > > > implanted into an woman it would become a child. Just because
> there is
> > no
> > > > sperm involved does not mean there is no life. Janice
> > > >
> > >
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