Yeah, Ned, they should get rid of the rhythm method (I forgot that one) as
it may keep people from being born.
----- Original Message ----- Ray
From: "Ned Gardner" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Souls in limbo


> Rayilynlee:
>
>
>
> Catholics believe in contraception of time (the rhythm method) but not
> space.
>
> (a condom) Why is this?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ned
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>
>
>> thanks, Celeste
>>
>> I know Catholics do don't believe in birth control, so it only follows
> they
>> would oppose IVF< ESCR, etc.
>>
>> I think my Mormon cousin prayed and had a conversation with God to arrive
> at
>> her opposition to ESCR and NT.  Senator Orrin Hatch probably did the same
>> but got a different answer from God.  When I asked her about using
>> contraceptives the conversation was over.  They do prevent people from
> being
>> born and I don't think she had thought about or prayed enough re this
> issue,
>> but I don't know since she has stopped speaking to me.
>>
>> Maybe an LDS can clarify this.
>>
>> Re "what about the souls of people in comas?" Those of you who have had
>> surgery know that "you" are really gone, not like sleep at all.  Where do
>> you go and come back?  Its like turning a computer off.  Also, what about
>> the souls of people with Alzheimer's?
>> Ray
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "MyFirstname Mylastname" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mittt Rpmney/Do stem cells go to heaven
>>
>>
>> >I can't speak for Mormons, but I think the Catholic belief goes
>> >something
>> > like this - stem cell usage and studying is perfectly fine.  EMBROYNIC
>> > stem
>> > cell research is not okay because the potential for life is there.
>> > Keep
>> > in  mind
>> > that Catholic doctrine prevents use of fertilization methods like IVF,
> so
>> > in
>> > theory, those cells should not exist. I'm not sure what the
> justification
>> > is
>> > for not using them, though, except that IVF is un-encouraged for
>> > Catholics.
>> > Also, as for the idea that cells can't have souls because they  can't
> have
>> > consciousness, does that mean that a person in a coma does not have a
>> > soul? Or
>> > a baby in labor?  Or a person who has passed away?  Having  said that,
>> > I
>> > don't
>> > think that stem cells in themselves have souls.  The  point is it is a
>> > process outside of the natural scheme of things that prevents  God's
>> > natural plan
>> > from being fully realized.
>> >    As for the thought of stem cells going to hell -  again, I can't
> speak
>> > for anything but Catholics, and even then, its possible my  information
>> > has
>> > flaws.  However, unborn babies or those born without the  ability to
> make
>> > the
>> > choice for themselves are not sent to hell.  Its a  common
>> > misconception
>> > put in
>> > place by Dante (who wrote the Inferno).     I hope this is helpful.
>> > Celeste Guerrero
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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