Don:
Apparently your intolerance of my opinion will preclude further discussion
here.

Not wanting to brawl.

Ned


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Mckinley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Souls in limbo


>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
> Date: 03/15/05 02:07:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>
> Ned:
> What is "the wrong turn" is just a matter of opinion, not fact, but I
> can see this discussion is leading nowhere, and the problem of finding a
> way to come to consensus continues. :( If you would like to continue
> this discussion, I think we should take it off the list, but I think it
> is a waste of time.
>
> Wendy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:28 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>
> Wendy:
>
> What would that compromise be?  Either we do all that is necessary to
> end PD
> or we continue  being led down the path taking all the wrong turns being
> lead  by those who's primary symbol they march behind is one of capitol
> punishment.        ( the cross )
>
>  Ned
>
> wendy NED WE NEED TO WORK TO GETER WHO IS RIGHT I DON'T KNOW I BEEN
> FIGHTING PD FOR 35 YEARS I DO WHAT    IT TAKES TO BEAT IT I DON'T ASK GOD
> TO
> FIGHT IT FOR ME BUT BELIVE IN GOD GOD I DO NOT UNDER STAND WHAT IS THE
> TROUBEL I AASK NO HEL I DO FOR MY SELF BUT AM HEAR TO HELP ANY ONE. THERE
> IS
> NO ONE ON THE PD LIST I HAVE EVER BAD M MOUTH WE HAVE EMAIL TO FOR THAT
> LETS
> HELP EACH OTHER SO EMAIL NOT LIST TO COMPLAIN  WE ARE TO HELP ONE AND
> OTHER
> [log in to unmask] Original Message -----
> From: "Wendy Siegel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>
>
>> Hi Ned!
>> I understand your point, but I don't know if I agree. I am very much
> an
>> independent thinker, and I find pros and cons to any side. Just
> because
>> I am not in the church at this time in my life doesn't mean that I
> won't
>> be in the future. It is just not something I feel I need at this time,
>> but who knows what tomorrow will bring? I know people whom I admire
> who
>> are in the church, and sometimes even independent thinkers need what
>> being part of a group can provide. There is strength in numbers, and
> if
>> we (PWP) could ever compromise and pursue a common goal, just think
> what
>> could be accomplished! :)
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:56 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>>
>> Wendy:
>>
>> Am I correct when say your independent thinking has led you to not
> join
>> a
>> church, and also have the ability of interpreting  the intent of my
>> thought
>> process?
>>
>> Ned
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wendy Siegel" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>>
>>
>>> Ned:
>>> Belonging to a church does not preclude someone from being an
>>> independent self informed thinker. One way to effectively communicate
>>> might be to stop calling names and assuming that you are better or
>>> smarter than they are. By the way, I don't belong to a church, but I
>> do
>>> believe in a higher power.
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:02 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>>>
>>> Peggy:
>>> Please remember when  referring to the "church herd"
>>> it could  never include an independent self informed thinker such as
>>> your
>>> self.   What are your thoughts on how to effectively
>>> communicate with the church herd.
>>>
>>> Ned
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peggy Willocks" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ned
>>>>
>>>> Please remember when referring to the anti-abortionists as the
>> "church
>>>> herd," that not all of the herd is created equal.  I am part of the
>>> church
>>>> herd, but DO NOT agree with the present stand on stem cell usage.
>> And
>>>> regardless of what anybody says, one CAN be pro-life and an advocate
>>> of
>>>> stem
>>>> cells simultaneously.
>>>>
>>>> (See an article done a while back -
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/parkmail1/
>>> 2003c/msg00091.html )
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Peggy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Ned Gardner
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rayilynlee:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The church herd would rather see aborted material go straight to the
>>>> incinerator rather than used for any stem cell research.  You see
>> this
>>>> deprives the woman of any
>>>>
>>>> possibility of feeling that something good can come from
>>>>
>>>> her choice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ned
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dee
>>>>> These same people are also doing other evil things besides opposing
>>> ESCR
>>>>> and
>>>>> NT.  I tell you we are entering a terrible period of history.
>>>>> Ray
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:53 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Jennifer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I share in your frustration.  It seems that we are living through
>> an
>>>>>> important chapter in medical and moral history.  Later, when this
>>> period
>>>>>> is recorded,
>>>>>> it will likely be compared to past practices and beliefs such as
>> the
>>>>>> Salem
>>>>>> witch hunts and the persecution of people who were labeled
> heretics
>>>>>> because they
>>>>>> declared that the world is round.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> History shows us that it often takes much effort and bravery to
>>> advance
>>>>>> society forward. Look back at the struggle of individuals who
>> fought
>>> for
>>>>>> the right
>>>>>> of family planning.  They faced the wrath of those people and
>>>>>> institutions
>>>>>> who declared it sinful to practice birth control.  The same people
>>> and
>>>>>> institutions who today declare it sinful to use cells in a petrii
>>> dish
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> alleviate
>>>>>> pain and suffering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
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