KF, I am still awaiting arguments and examples of how I have personally
verbally assaulted anyone on the List. either in personal emails or on the
List. If I have I certainly apologize, but would like to know what I said.
A far as I know Bush is not a list member, but the "most important person in
the world"  (Daily Show) Ray
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From: "KF Etzold" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Arguments please, not whining


> Ray:
>
> I have followed the Bush bashing mail and had the same reaction. There are
> no substantive arguments on their side just vague complaints about
> censorship. One could also count the PD related posts on their side and
> they are few. Rather than their complaining, I would like to see a well
> reasoned description of what Bush is doing. And I don't mean a rehash of
> what they are saying. Example: Somebody said we are fighting terrorists in
> Iraq. That may be true today, but it certainly was not the premise on
> which
> this preemptive war was started. There were no terrorists there then.
> Saddam would not stand for the competition. Iraq has become a fertile
> ground for them. Indeed Iraq as a single country may well cease to exist.
>
> K. F.
>
>
>
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> Teresa,
>
> I would like an example of how I have displayed hatred for anyone on this
> list.  Let's hear some ARGUMENTS from you about why a cell is a person,
> why
> a preemptive war is OK.  I would love to debate these issues with anyone
> instead of your just claiming I am hateful.
>
> I have been through the fire in life and the classroom and am not afraid
> of
> you.  I am not going away.   Your problem with me is that you don't  seem
> to
> have any arguments.
>
> Just saw a great movie, "Warm Springs" about FDR (who as a Republican I
> used
> to oppose) and how he dealt with polio.  When I cried several times, my
> dog
> did too.   We never saw FDR's greatest battle, I highly recommend it.
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Theresa Rehtom" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Bush bashing
>
>
>> There is no tolerance here for anyone who disagrees with Ray.  That is
>> what
>> appears to be the problem.  There are no values tolerated in  discussion
>> unless they align with Ray's.
>>
>> Yes there is an occasional posting allowed that disagrees but if the
>> poster
>> begins to make statements counter to Ray's beliefs they are soon attacked
>> by
>> the  same group of Bush bashers under the guise of "freedom of speech"
> and
>> "we
>> are just searching for a cure"
>>
>> No Rick there is no tolerance displayed here only hatred.  The
> suggestion
>> of
>> filtering does not really work.  Why should a person join a  list hoping
>> for
>> Parkinsons information and support and then have to filter out  hatred
> and
>> blatantly political rantings.  Why should a person have to  turn on
>> filters to
>> feel welcome.
>>
>> Yes these rantings make her feel good.  I'm glad for that.  I am  unhappy
>> that she has driven so many people away from this list.  Fine  caring
>> people were
>> driven away and even Doctors who were supportive of all and  provided
>> balance
>> when medical advice was flowing.
>>
>> I guess we don't need the rejects doctors anyway.  There is rarely any
>> Parkinson's related discussions going on here.  There are only the bones
>> of  a once
>> useful list.  They only support a few bits of dying flesh now.   What a
>> shame.  It takes a whole body to be useful and function.  All  the
> organs.
>> All the
>> muscle.  Not just the bones.  Just like  Parkinson's limits the
> usefulness
>> of
>> the body by killing parts off the  brain.  This list has killed off and
>> rejected valuable  contributors...  The only thing left are the feeble
>> shakes,
>> weakness,  delusions, drooling, paranoia and the inability provide
> support
>> for
>> others.
>>
>> RIP one time useful list...
>>
>> Just my observations.  Please feel free to disagree.  I won't  hold it
>> against you or decree that your opinions are not  worthy posting.  They
>> are all
>> worthy.  It is just a shame what  has happened to this list.
>>
>> With Love and Respect for all
>>
>> Theresa
>>
>>
>>
>>
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