Rick:
As I remember it, they were small blue cans, half the size of a can of
shaving cream.  I too set off the cans and left the house for three weeks on
vacation.  My mistake was that when I returned alone, having left my family
at our vacation home for seven weeks, I did not wash everything.  The fleas
were gone, and I incorrectly assumed the toxins had dissipated. (I did put
on the attic fan!)  I did this operation twice during successive family
vacations from which I returned home to work.  Two of my children developed
mild neurological problems.  David


>From: Rick McGirr <[log in to unmask]>
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>David,
>
>I wouldn't be able to tell you what brand we used, but we were
>unsuccessful in the first attempt, so we did it again.  This was back
>in 1977 or 8.  It wasn't a tall can, the size of a whipped cream can.
>It was about half as tall.  You were supposed to get it going and then
>leave immediately, which we did.  I remember the directions said it
>was ok to re-enter after 4 hours, and I think we did go in a bit
>quicker than that the second time.  I should contact my old roomies to
>find out if any of them have problems.
>
>Took my symptoms another 20 years to show up, but they came on early,
>when I was about 47.
>
>Enjoy Fall!
>Rick McGirr
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>From: "DAVID LEWIN" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:05 AM
>Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc
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>>Rick,
>>What product did you use when you flea bombed your band house?  I
>>can trace
>>my PD onset back to incidents when I flea bombed my house 2X.  I
>>believe I
>>used D-Con.  David
>>
>>
>>>From: Rick McGirr <[log in to unmask]>
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>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc
>>>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:00:06 -0400
>>>
>>>I think both viewpoints below are correct.  To think of my mom, who
>>>still has her wits about her at 90, bounding across a savannah,
>>>well,
>>>it would make a good cartoon.  Modern life allows the survival of
>>>folks, even when they have trouble getting around, like Mom.  And I
>>>think my mom's input and her example have kept the family alive and
>>>thriving.  These days natural selection favors those animals with
>>>access to health care.
>>>
>>>I think they might discover that PD comes from a bad gene, that the
>>>bad gene was due to something in the parents' environment somewhere,
>>>between the original chicken/egg and now, and that the disease is
>>>triggered by unnatural things in the offspring's environment.
>>>
>>>My mom has essential tremor, my son has Tourette's, and I'm sitting
>>>pretty in the middle with PD.  Is there a single gene that we share?
>>>What could my mom or her parents have been exposed to?  You never
>>>know.  Abraham Lincoln took mercury pills for his melancholia.  I
>>>was
>>>exposed to the residue of pesticide immediately after we flea-bombed
>>>our band house long ago, multiple times.  Three, I think.
>>>
>>>Enjoy Fall!
>>>Rick McGirr
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>>>From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:40 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Scientific Method etc
>>>
>>>
>>>>.
>>>>Joe wrote:
>>>>I'm not discounting Natural Selection or the idea that the older
>>>>you
>>>>are the
>>>>more likely you will be sick but I don't think Nature acts to
>>>>deliberately
>>>>weed out the old in order to make room for offspring, indeed one
>>>>theory is
>>>>that having older members of a tribe around, especially
>>>>grandmothers, leads
>>>>to higher survival rates for the children
>>>>-------------
>>>>On the contrary, the well understood process of aging in humans
>>>>points to
>>>>the actual breaking down of the body.  Anyone who has watched a
>>>>person reach
>>>>their 80s (and beyond) will notice that weight is lost, the
>>>>appetite
>>>>decreases, movement slows, bones become brittle and the immune
>>>>system fails.
>>>>Slowly, nature insures that the elderly will be eliminated.
>>>>
>>>>While it is true that grandmothers were essential for the success
>>>>of
>>>>the
>>>>human race (watched the kids while mom and dad sought food for the
>>>>tribe),
>>>>please keep in mind that those grandmothers were probably in their
>>>>late
>>>>thirties and forties.  It was extremely rare for grandma to reach
>>>>80
>>>>way
>>>>back when moving quickly through the savanna was essential in order
>>>>not to
>>>>be eaten.
>>>>
>>>>PD is certainly another way that the body breaks down.  The big
>>>>question
>>>>is....why and how does the disease occur?
>>>>---------
>>>>God bless
>>>>Mary Ann (CG Jamie 66/26 with PD)
>>>>
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